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Premiere Drive Upgrade Instructions - with all-in-one jmfs Live CD

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by comer, Sep 20, 2010.

  1. Jan 12, 2011 #461 of 2843
    Bai Shen

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    That's not the mirror link.
     
  2. Jan 12, 2011 #462 of 2843
    txporter

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    Finally got off my duff and supersized my 2TB premiere. Quick and painless (once I was able to get a computer to boot off the CD). My machine which I use for video editing, etc just refuses to boot off CD. Not sure what the problem is. Luckily my wife is out of town and her machine was available.

    Thanks for your great work, comer!
     
  3. Jan 12, 2011 #463 of 2843
    rodbeezy

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    I need to reformat my comp and need to backup 1.4 TB of data. I planned on using a WD20EVDS temporarily to house the backup data until I get the data back on my reformatted system. Of course this will require the EVDS to be in NTFS. Can I then repurpose the WD20EVDS as a TiVo upgrade with jmfs even though the drive will be in NTFS?
     
  4. Jan 12, 2011 #464 of 2843
    alyssa

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    I'd write 0's to it. It might be overkill but it give's a clean slate(or platter).
    WD has a easy utility.
     
  5. Jan 13, 2011 #465 of 2843
    rodbeezy

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    @alyssa

    that sounds like a good option. thanks!
     
  6. Jan 13, 2011 #466 of 2843
    gil sonnier

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    i have a premier that i want to put a WD20EARS in. do i need to disable intellipark.
    in some of the first post Ive read it says yes. but in later post,some said you don't have to.any advice lately on this. also i was wondering, does comer's copy tool have a supersize option in it?
    thanks for any advise.
     
  7. Jan 13, 2011 #467 of 2843
    SMWinnie

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    Replacement 2TB WD EARS passed the extensive test. Now comerized, up and running.

    Drive was manufactured 2 Nov 2010. Out of the box, WDIDLE3 reported Intellipark enabled with the timeout set at 8 seconds. Ran WDIDLE3 to "disable" (well, set to 62 minutes) Intellipark.
     
  8. Jan 13, 2011 #468 of 2843
    richsadams

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    Welcome to the forum. If your new hard drive was manufactured prior to 09/15/10 you will probably need to adjust the Intellipark feature's timeout. The only way to find out is to perform the upgrade, install the drive and see if TiVo boots up. If it boots up try a menu restart. If it boots and reboots normally you would not have to make any adjustments. See this post for more info:

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=5616160#post5616160 (Section V, #14)

    Yes, as the very first line in the very first post of this thread reads "revision 104 - Nov-06-2010 - with Supersize!". Happy upgrading.
     
  9. Jan 13, 2011 #469 of 2843
    strejcek

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    OK, so I thought I would answer some questions relevant to a drive upgrade with the Premiere and the Premiere XL. Since I couldn't find the answers to my questions in this thread, I had to learn through trial and error; and let me tell you, it was a heck of a lot of more trial than error.

    Q. Can you replace a faulty drive using the drive image from one Premiere to another Premiere?
    A1. Yes you can replace a Premiere drive using the image of another Premiere drive.
    A2. Yes you can replace a Premiere XL drive using the image of another Premiere XL drive.
    A3. Yes you can replace a Premiere XL drive using the image of a regular Premiere; however, you will have to do a Clear and Delete everything, and it will load the software for a standard Premiere, during the setup process, which is the same but different from the XL.

    What does this mean? After the Clear and Delete (took about two hours), and after running the guided setup, I had to re-setup my channel lineups because my XL was not caching my guide data despite the several hundred connections I forced to TiVo. After nailing down the guide issue, I lost the Showcases option a few days later and it would not load the 14.7 software; confirmed by TiVo tech support after reviewing my logs; my XL was downloading it but would not install it, and I'm surmising it is because the core software version on my XL was that of a standard Premiere (different software versions confirmed by TiVo tech support). Long story short, it's not worth the aggravation of trying to interchange drive images.

    I did this out of necessity, not knowing the headaches that would follow, because the drive in my XL took a dump and TiVo told me my unit was out of warranty, incorrectly, otherwise I would have had them send me a replacement XL.

    Q. Is the drive image on a brand new Premiere pre-mirrored to the TiVo unit and internal drive?
    A. No, the image on a brand new unit, that has never been plugged in, is not mirrored to the unit. This image can be used for a replacement drive. Upon powering up the replacement drive in the old TiVo, it goes through the guided setup as if it were a brand new unit.

    This is all probably common knowledge, but I couldn't really find the concrete answers I was looking for, which is the reason for this post. Thanks to Comer for his hard work and great knowledge; his software worked like a champ.
     
  10. Jan 14, 2011 #470 of 2843
    richsadams

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    As mentioned a few posts above...

    FWIW you can still use the drive from one TiVo to image a drive in another (identical) TiVo even if it has been set up. On the initial boot up there is an error screen and if you run C&DE it will return it to "as new" condition.

    Glad to hear things worked out. Enjoy!
     
  11. Jan 14, 2011 #471 of 2843
    Raymond Day

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    I bought a TiVo Premiere and looked if I could copy the hard drive to a 2TB drive on Google. I found it and burt and ISO and took the 320GB hard drive out of my TiVo Premiere and put it in a Atom CPU D510 PC and put the HD green 2TB on the 2nd SATA and booted the DVD on a USB DVD drive.

    Jmfs Live DVD I put it on a DVD-R and it booted and it was so very easy. This shows the hard drives good and says what it's going to do very good. It took about 3 or more hours to copy the 320GB WD green hard drive that came with the TiVo Premiere. It's been about 5 days now and my TiVo Premiere is working super with the 2TB drive.

    Thank you who makde Jmfs Live CD. It works very good and tells you very good what to do. Show what hard drives it's going to copy and to were. Very nice.

    I guess it will not work with old TiVo's but it be neat is one CD would.

    Thanks again for Jmfs Live CD. Were I downloaded it, it's named "premiere_linux_inc_supersize_jmfs-rev104.iso"

    -Raymond Day
     
  12. Jan 14, 2011 #472 of 2843
    windracer

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    Can't wait for this ... I like having truncated images around "just in case" and WinMFS has been perfect for that over the past few years.
     
  13. Jan 14, 2011 #473 of 2843
    richsadams

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    You and me both. Putting a 160GB drive or whatever on the shelf as a backup is no big deal. However putting a 1TB drive on the shelf just in case is a little more painful and very tempting for a repurpose. I don't know if Spike or anyone else is working on this or not, but it would certainly be welcome.
     
  14. Jan 14, 2011 #474 of 2843
    tome_9499

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    I'm about to upgrade my Premiere to 2TB, and wanted to make certain that I purchase the right SATA drive to complete the upgrade. I know that the USB drive expansion only allows you to use the WD DVR Expander. Are there any similar restrictions on internal HDD upgrades?

    Also, I am replacing a Tivo HD (1GB). Is there any fast and reliable way to transfer my recordings from the Tivo HD to the Tivo Premier? I don't want to do them one at a time over the network. It would take days, and is flaky in my experience.
    Thanks,

    Tom

    SVR2000 - Lifetime
    Series 2 DT (500MB) - $12.95
    HD (1GB) - $6.95
    Premier - ???
     
  15. Jan 14, 2011 #475 of 2843
    Bai Shen

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    I didn't. Got the drive from Amazon yesterday, popped the Tivo open and did the upgrade today. Totally forgot about checking manufacturer date and making any changes until after I had it put back together.

    So far everything seems to be working.

    Yes. The cd will offer to automatically expand for you, but you need to go back to the menu to get the supersize option.



    Thanks for the hard work, Comer! The cd worked like a charm.
     
  16. Jan 14, 2011 #476 of 2843
    richsadams

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    Drive recommendations:

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=8263939#post8263939
    Do you mean are you limited to what drive you can use for an upgrade? Not really...as long as it's a like-for-like type (SATA). FWIW there's no benefit to installing a faster drive (7200 RPM for example) or one with a large cache. TiVo's requirements are very basic as compared to other applications. Concerns with TiVo drives are generally acoustics and heat. The WD GP drives (which are what TiVo is now using) generally fit the bill, are in wide use and well-tested here.

    Other than over your network? The short answer is no. Once upon a time I tried connecting two TiVo's together directly using an Ethernet crossover cable to move recordings from one to the other. That worked fine, but the recording transfer speeds were no better than over my normal, hard-wired network because the limitations are with TiVo itself, not the network. (FWIW the Premier's transfer capabilities are much better.) Using TiVo's MRV abilities is the fastest, easiest way to transfer recordings. A hardwired transfer may be faster and more reliable than WiFi depending on your setup.

    There are other options like TiVo Desktop or KMTTG, but that involves a third element, a computer so although the transfer speeds could be faster from/to the computer and TiVo, it would ultimately take longer.

    Hope that helps and happy upgrading!
     
  17. Jan 14, 2011 #477 of 2843
    ThreeSoFar

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    Comer, TIA for getting this jmfs solution out there. This is gonna be easy.

    Quick question: Will this boot CD handle older TiVos as well? How far back? Even the IDE ones?
     
  18. Jan 14, 2011 #478 of 2843
    ThreeSoFar

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    Spreading the joy here. $20 rebate on up to FIVE(5) 2TB WD20 EADS or EARS drives, from many online vendors (newegg, amazon, etc.). Brings net price down to $70 at Newegg (with code), or $80 Amazon.

    It's good until 16 JAN.
     
  19. Jan 15, 2011 #479 of 2843
    richsadams

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    Only Premiere, Premiere XL, TiVo HD and TiVo HD XL.
     
  20. Jan 15, 2011 #480 of 2843
    marspinball

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    I purchased two WD20EURS from buy.com. Manufacture dates were November 5th and 6th. Both had the intellipark feature disabled and AAM at 128 out of the box. Ran the WD test utilities/scan which took about five hours to run (each drive). I just let those run overnight.

    I got 318 hours on my THD and the whole process only took two hours. All my settings and recordings were intact. Also noticed the THD booted up in about half the time as compared to the original drive. Additionally the new drive runs cooler and is quieter than the stock drive.

    I used JMFS for copy and expand. Based on this thread I could not locate anyone who supersized a THD with JMFS but a couple who used WinMFS. So after the copy and expand with JMFS I just rebooted the computer back into Windows, ran WinMFS and supersized, took less than a minute!!

    I will upgrade my Premiere once I get the cable card installed and that one should be even easier.
     

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