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Premiere Drive Upgrade Instructions - with all-in-one jmfs Live CD

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by comer, Sep 20, 2010.

  1. Jan 3, 2011 #421 of 2843
    Bai Shen

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    A 2TB WD Green EARS drive will work for a Premiere upgrade, correct? Is there anything special I need to do to it? I just got it a month or two ago and was using it for storage in my system.
     
  2. Jan 3, 2011 #422 of 2843
    richsadams

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    See here for more info:

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=8305812#post8305812

    You can adjust the AAM to make it quieter and if it was manufactured prior to 09/15/10 you may need to adjust the Intellipark timeout. You can find more information about adjusting the AAM and Intellipark settings on the Drive Expansion and Drive Upgrade FAQ (specifically Section IV, #32 and Section V, #14 respectively):

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=5616160#post5616160

    Happy upgrading!
     
  3. Jan 3, 2011 #423 of 2843
    Bai Shen

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    You're second link doesn't work.

    Is it worth it to spend the extra cash for the A/V drives vs a regular Green?
     
  4. Jan 3, 2011 #424 of 2843
    richsadams

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    Link works now. Some think extra $$$ for a dedicated A/V drive is worth it, some don't think so and don't mind setting the AAM themselves.
     
  5. Jan 3, 2011 #425 of 2843
    alyssa

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    I'm in the same situation. I decided to keep my old tivo set up until I watch everything/need the cash/or get sick of looking at it. My new premier will record all the new stuff & in a pinch I'll have 4 tuners in the living room.:D
    The cable card rental is between $1.75-$2/month.

    On a side note, anyone know if the slide (bluetooth) remote & the IR glow remote can operate in the same room without pairing to the tivo?
     
  6. Jan 3, 2011 #426 of 2843
    Southie Boy

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    So...... If i were to do a drive size expansion on my current HD TiVo by copying the contents of the existing drive to a new larger drive using JMFS are you telling me the files carrying the copy protection flag will not transfer to the upgrade drive?
     
  7. Jan 4, 2011 #427 of 2843
    Tivoitis

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    If you copy your current HD Tivo drive over to a new drive and then put that new drive back into the same HD Tivo, everything will transfer over (because JMFS does straight copy of the drive). You will see all the shows and they will still be copy protected.

    If your current HD Tivo drive is the original never-been expanded drive, then you'll be able to expand the new drive via JMFS. If your current HD Tivo has a drive that was already expanded (whether by JMFS or by WinMFS), then you won't be able to expand the new drive using JMFS.

    If you're hoping to take the HD Tivo drive, copy and expand it onto a new drive, and drop that new drive into the Premiere, that won't work.
     
  8. Jan 4, 2011 #428 of 2843
    alyssa

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    I imagine the hack requires a soldering pencil.....?
     
  9. Jan 5, 2011 #429 of 2843
    richsadams

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    Yep.
     
  10. Jan 6, 2011 #430 of 2843
    Bai Shen

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    -nods- I'm debating on wether to use the EARS drive currently in my machine or to order a new AV drive.
     
  11. Jan 7, 2011 #431 of 2843
    SMWinnie

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    I know this has been discussed but can't seem to find the previous posts. Starting yesterday, I've had a green "serious problem...wait three hours" screen. Rebooting gets to "a few minutes more" before dropping to the green screen.

    I vaguely remember that the next step is either to check WDidle (which I think I did before installing the drive) or to kickstart. Little help?
     
  12. Jan 7, 2011 #432 of 2843
    richsadams

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    An mfsAssert (GSOD) indicates data corruption. It may be due to a power fluctuation (particularly if you don't have TiVo on a UPS), signal issue or hardware problem including the hard drive itself. It probably doesn't have anything to do with the Intellipark feature (addressed with wdidle3.exe).

    If you haven't already (but it sounds like you have), try power cycling your TiVo (pull the plug, wait about 10 seconds for the drive to spin down and then plug it back in). That may or may not fix things.

    If not the Kickstart instructions are here...

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showpost.php?p=5643823&postcount=2

    Since it's already trying to run KS57, you should probably try running KS58 to see if it can recover. If that doesn't work try running KS54 (SMART diagnostic) to see if a fail code appears and what it is.

    Note that the instructions for running Kickstarts on TiVo Premiere and Premier XL's is slightly different than for other models...details are listed near the end of the Kickstart post.

    Hope that helps and let us know how it goes.
     
  13. Jan 7, 2011 #433 of 2843
    SMWinnie

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    Thanks, Rich. I did power cycle without success and KS54 never got me to the SMART screen. I went home over lunch and tried a KS58. The Premiere downloaded and applied the service update but then went from "a few minutes more" to the GSOD.

    From here, I guess I should pull the drive and run WD's diagnostic tools? (Or, since I don't think I'll ever trust the drive anyway, get a new 2TB drive and pull the original 320GB drive out of storage.)
     
  14. Jan 7, 2011 #434 of 2843
    sundiego

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    Great forum- thank you Comer and Rich!

    Since I have 3 premieres and thanks to Dell deal of 2TB WD drive, I am all set to upgrade!

    1 question- if I get premiere image file, is there a simpler way to burn/expand that on to my other 2 premieres? Otherwise each time I would have to wait for copying original disk right?

    Rgds,
    Sun
     
  15. Jan 7, 2011 #435 of 2843
    richsadams

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    Bummer. Yep, as long as you have the original you could slip it back in and be back in business...plus use it to image a new drive. If you still experience problems at least you'd know it's something else (but it's most likely the drive).

    You could run Western Digital's Lifeguard on it to see how things go. I know what you mean about it being in the back of your mind though...trust is a precious thing. I think I'd get an RMA and be done with it.

    These things happen. Um, happy New Year! :)
     
  16. Jan 7, 2011 #436 of 2843
    richsadams

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    Welcome to the forum. The last part, yes, you'll need to upgrade each TiVo individually. Once TiVo has been set up the image is actually tied to that particular TiVo. It is possible to use an image from one TiVo in another, identical model. However it will throw an error when it boots up and you have to run Clear and Delete Everything. CD&E wipes all of the cable card info and of course any recordings, etc. essentially creating a brand new TiVo. So if you want to keep anything at all...the wait is worth it.

    Happy upgrading!

    BTW, this is all Comer's fault...er, baby! :)
     
  17. Jan 7, 2011 #437 of 2843
    shaggy2002

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    I have read a lot of these posts and am ready to upgrade to 2 TB. I purchased a WD20EVDS (manu 11 SEP 2010 bought from Amazon.) I gather from all the posts I read I do not need to set AAM adjustments since it is a WD20EVDS. Where I am confused is if I need to disable Intellipark or not. I read if manufactured before "november you are good" but think that was from a year ago. If someone could answer this I would appreciate it, as I would like to do the widdle while my drive is out of the tivo.
     
  18. Jan 8, 2011 #438 of 2843
    richsadams

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    You are correct, the EVDS is a dedicated A/V drive series from Western Digital. The AAM is already set at the lowest/quietest level - 128.

    You can find more information about adjusting the Intellipark settings (for WD drives manufactured prior to 09/15/10) on the Drive Expansion and Drive Upgrade FAQ (specifically Section V, #14):

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=5616160#post5616160

    Hope that helps and happy upgrading!
     
  19. Jan 8, 2011 #439 of 2843
    shaggy2002

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    Rich,

    I read that last night, but that is what confused me.

    "This issue affects all recent Western Digital EADS, EARS, and EAVS drives. It also affects EVVS drives manufactured after September 18 and EVDS drives manufactured since November. Drives built prior to these dates work perfectly fine; they do not exhibit the issue. The manufacture date is printed on the top of every drive."

    my question is, November what? 2010, 2009, 2008?? The post goes back to like 2007. I appreciate all of your help in advance!
     
  20. Jan 8, 2011 #440 of 2843
    alyssa

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    shaggy,
    I'm in the process of copying to an evds drive with a date of sept 10, 2010. I plan on NOT running wdidle3.exe on it. I'm hopeful the Intellipark feature will be disabled. I will edit my post later on tonight with the results.
     

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