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Premiere Drive Upgrade Instructions - with all-in-one jmfs Live CD

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by comer, Sep 20, 2010.

  1. Dec 16, 2010 #381 of 2843
    richsadams

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    Although TiVo is aware of any upgrade if they take the time to review their logs as long as the original hard drive is installed (or reinstalled), the unit is otherwise unchanged and no mention of the upgrade is made to the CSR TiVo will honor their warranty.

    The only way to find out would be to perform the upgrade and see if TiVo will boot up. Then if it boots up properly try a menu restart. If it restarts you're good to go. If either fail you'll need to run wdidle3.exe to adjust the Intellipark feature's timeout.
     
  2. Dec 18, 2010 #382 of 2843
    stanlam

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    So I received my WD20EVDS hard drive the other day. I wanted to run some test to make sure it's not defective. Here's the interesting part, I did a slow and full format in windows. It took about 1 day for format the hard drive. I didn't have any problems. Then I decided to run the Western digital program called LifeGuard Diagnostic. This program takes 2 days to run and it failed both times saying to many bad sectors. Now I'm waiting for a new hard drive from the warranty. Interesting huh?

    Here's my question that is not related. After I get my replacement 2TB hard drive, what should I do with my original Premiere? Can I back up the original premiere hard drive onto a DVD so I can use the original Premiere hard drive for other purposes. My only concern is that in the future I might need to image another 2TB since they don't seem to be that reliable.
     
  3. Dec 18, 2010 #383 of 2843
    richsadams

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    Although I'd avoid running any Windows programs on your new drive at all, running Western Digital's Lifeguard was an excellent move. It probably saved you a lot of grief down the road. The larger the hard drive the more opportunity there is for problem sectors.

    With older TiVo drives being so small the temptation to repurpose them was just as small so putting it on the shelf as a solid backup was a no brainer. These days it's hard to put a 1TB drive away for safe keeping. However that's exactly what I would do, at least for now. Unfortunately there's no option to create a truncated backup of the OS as there is with other TiVo drives using winMFS or MFSTools...the entire drive would need to be duplicated...and then you're back in the same boat. So I would strongly recommend keeping the original TiVo hard drive on the shelf. If your TiVo fails for some reason (other than HDD failure) you can easily slip it back in for warranty service. If a new drive fails you can also slip it in and be back up and running almost instantly. Plus you can continue to use the original drive to image new drives if/when needed.

    It's a big ask I know, but keeping the original intact is your best, safest bet at least until someone comes up with a way to image just the OS for safe keeping.
     
  4. Dec 19, 2010 #384 of 2843
    WesleyMac

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    Is the link on Comer's post #212 the link to the bootable CD image? When I view the post, it says that links in signatures are not visible until after I have posted 10 times - this is my second, and I hope I can make 10 without being a nuisance.
     
  5. Dec 19, 2010 #385 of 2843
    richsadams

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    Welcome to the forum (well, sort of...I see you posted once a few years ago). ;) Here you go...

    http://www.mediafire.com/?pfc9n8o30tc64

    Happy upgrading!

    BTW, I think they cut the posting count for seeing/posting links to five now.
     
  6. Dec 19, 2010 #386 of 2843
    WesleyMac

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    Thanks, Rich.
    P.S. re number of posts needed to view images and links, the text that appears in lieu of the links states that 10 are needed and that I have only two (three with this!). Anyway, many thanks.
     
  7. Dec 20, 2010 #387 of 2843
    richsadams

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    I know the text message says 10 but IIRC one of the moderators said they changed the actual post count required to 5...but left the text at 10 to scare off spammers. Who knows.

    Anyway, just noticed that you're right next door...so happy upgrading and try and stay dry! ;)
     
  8. Dec 22, 2010 #388 of 2843
    netholio

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    Very very happy with this "procedure". I had a spare WD10EVDS laying about because of a previous TS session on a tivo HD.... it's now in my Premiere and working great!
     
  9. Dec 22, 2010 #389 of 2843
    RickNY

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    Thanks Comer! Just sent some PayPal thanks your way.. Great work.
     
  10. Dec 24, 2010 #390 of 2843
    pbolya

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    I am looking to upgrade my Premier with Comer's method (thanks Comer). I have a 1TB Premiere XL and looking to buy a new Western Digital Caviar Green WD30EZRSDTL 3TB drive to upgrade the Premier to 3TB.

    Has enyone successfully upgraded to 3TB before using this method ?

    Are there any issues with WD30EZRSDTL to use in the TiVo (e.g. not recommended for always on A/V etc...) ? Are there any other 3TB disks I should consider instead?

    Are there any 2.2TB barrier issues?

    Any information would be greatly appriciated!

    Thanks,
    Peter
     
  11. Dec 24, 2010 #391 of 2843
    richsadams

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    Yes. Unfortunately TiVo's file structure is limited to 2TB's.
     
  12. Dec 24, 2010 #392 of 2843
    pbolya

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    That's a bummer. So I guess I need to upgrade to 2TB and keep downloading the shows I won't watch immediatelly to my PC (Have 6.2 TB disc space in it).
     
  13. Dec 24, 2010 #393 of 2843
    richsadams

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    That's it for now. Wow! That is a lot of TV to watch!

    FWIW there were a couple of folks selling "4TB" TiVo upgrades (2TB internal and 2TB external) on ebay. That went on for a very short while and then they disappeared. There were a couple of members that tried it out here as well, Comer being one but IIRC everyone eventually ran into some file corruption issues. Spike also confirmed on his website (http://mfslive.org/) that TiVo is limited to 2TB's as well. Perhaps one day there will be a breakthrough.

    Happy upgrading!
     
  14. Dec 25, 2010 #394 of 2843
    wikiwiki2004

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    I bought 2 2TB WD20EARS date june 10, 2010. Was initially going to use them as an external drive but tivo won't configure them because they are unsupported. So doing comers upgrade instead. crossing fingers and hoping this works!
     
  15. Dec 25, 2010 #395 of 2843
    TheTivoPenguin

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    "To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 5 posts."
    Looks like it may be 10 and not 5, I can't see links :)

    OT - this thread has been a lifesaver - thank you very much for all of the info here, it was a long read. I should be utilizing this very soon.

    Now to gently spam 4 more posts :p
     
  16. Dec 25, 2010 #396 of 2843
    richsadams

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    Got it. I thought they had changed the count requirement, but I guess that was just a discussion. 10 seems overkill...5 maybe, but I don't think 10 is really reasonable. Not my call though.

    In any case, welcome and enjoy!
     
  17. Dec 25, 2010 #397 of 2843
    wikiwiki2004

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    woohoo! got one tivo updated! now working on the second one! 317 hours of hd programming! Thanks for all your work Comer!
     
  18. Dec 27, 2010 #398 of 2843
    chetk

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    does the premiere upgrade work for the series 3 thx. looking to upgrade my s3 if i can, used mfslive on other tivo and worked but looking for a least 1.5tb is that possible? or can i go bigger.
     
  19. Dec 27, 2010 #399 of 2843
    richsadams

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    Unfortunately due to differences in partition structures the jmfs program does not work on the original Series3 TiVo. The maximum capacity for the Series3 internal TiVo drive is 1.1 TB plus the capacity of the original drive (250GB) or approximately 1.26TB. You can upgrade using winMFS or MFStools. Everything you need to know can be found here:

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=5616160#post5616160

    Happy upgrading!
     
  20. Dec 28, 2010 #400 of 2843
    Marconi

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    Does anyone know where I can get a Premier drive image? (I need just an image, not a drive.)
     

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