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Premiere Drive Upgrade Instructions - with all-in-one jmfs Live CD

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by comer, Sep 20, 2010.

  1. Dec 1, 2010 #321 of 2843
    richsadams

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    If they are the same model (Premiere or Premiere XL) you can do that under "normal" circumstances (using MFSTools, etc). However I don't know that it's been tried with Comer's upgrade method so you're in uncharted waters. I don't know of any reason it wouldn't work though. However when you boot up you will almost certainly receive an error message (as the OEM drives are matched to the unit). You will then have to run Clear and Delete Everything. That will restore the default image. Since you'll basically have a "new" TiVo you'll need to get your cable cards re-paried, etc.
     
  2. Dec 1, 2010 #322 of 2843
    bgtees

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    Thanks Rich - I appreciate the information. I'll give it a shot this weekend and report back either way.
     
  3. Dec 1, 2010 #323 of 2843
    LSpera

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    Upgrade worked perfectly with a Seagate Barracuda LP 2 TB 5900RPM SATA 3 GB/s 32 MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal Hard Drive ST32000542AS.. got the drive for $69.99 shipped from Amazon. 317 hours of HD. I'm a happy guy!

    THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!
     
  4. Dec 1, 2010 #324 of 2843
    bhfr

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    I don't understand why but using a different computer worked for me. I' copying to my 2tb now. Thanks
     
  5. Dec 2, 2010 #325 of 2843
    172pilot

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    Haven't finished yet, but the copy is progressing, and as someone who's owned 7 Tivos now (2x S1, 2x S2, 1x Humax-DVDr, 1x HD, and now 1x Premier), I have to say, this was the QUICKEST and EASIEST upgrade I've ever done...

    Thanks!!!!
    -Steve
     
  6. Dec 3, 2010 #326 of 2843
    SUOrangeman

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    What's the verdict, if any, on advanced format drives? I've been looking at the models folks have successfully used for upgrades, but I don't think any of them are advanced format.

    -SUO
     
  7. Dec 4, 2010 #327 of 2843
    cds618

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    Can someone help please,

    I tried to copy my original 320 drive to a new WD AV-GP 2TB drive. I connected both drives, went through the guided setup, it found the Tivo drive, It found the 2tb destination drive, I selected Copy, it started to copy then after a while my computer screen went black & there was no hard drive activity. waited about an hour than I hit the escape button & it seemed to have stopped at around 31GB of copying - no errors. I restarted the computer & tried again. Same thing happened except it got to about 48gb of copying - no errors I waited 2 hours this time. Tried a 3rd time it got to 42gb with 1 error this time after 4 hours.

    Any suggestions on what could be wrong?
     
  8. Dec 4, 2010 #328 of 2843
    stanlam

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    What is the best 1 TB and 2 TB drive to buy for the Tivo Premiere if price was not a factor. I figure I'm already saving so much money by doing the internal hard drive upgrade myself. I don't mind spending a few extra bucks on buying the most compatible 1 TB or 2 TB drive for the Premiere. I really don't want a headache with compatibility issues. Please give me the model # so I can buy it soon.
     
  9. Dec 4, 2010 #329 of 2843
    richsadams

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    If you're referring to the newer drives with 400K sectors, there's no impact when it comes to upgrading TiVo.
     
  10. Dec 4, 2010 #330 of 2843
    richsadams

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    It sounds like a hard drive problem. If your original TiVo hard drive was working fine there's likely an issue with your new drive.

    I've gotten into the habit of testing all new hard drives. Most are fine but now and then one isn't. Your best bet is to run Western Digital's Lifeguard diagnostic program:

    http://support.wdc.com/product/download.asp?lang=en

    You can run the quick test to see if it passes. If it doesn't, time for an RMA. If it does you should run the extended read/write/read test. That will take quite a while on a 2TB drive so I'd leave it run overnight.

    You could run the quick test on your original TiVo drive, but do NOT run the extended diagnostic as it of course wipes everything on the hard drive.

    Hope that helps and let us know how things go.
     
  11. Dec 4, 2010 #331 of 2843
    cds618

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    Thanks for the quick reply, I tried the quick test & it passed. Just started the extended, This is going to take 5 1/2 hrs.

    Thanks again
     
  12. Dec 4, 2010 #332 of 2843
    richsadams

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    Welcome to the forum. You have several options. If it were me I would opt for one of these at this time:

    WD10EVDS - http://www.amazon.com/5400RPM-Buffe...KO74/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1291451556&sr=8-1

    WD20EVDS - http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digit...1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1291452565&sr=1-1

    Those are both A/V dedicated drives and do not need any AAM adjustments. If you buy them from Amazon or Newegg.com they s/b new enough that they won't need the Intellipark feature tweaked.

    Probably the most popular drives being used here are these:

    WD10EARS - http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digit...1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1291451854&sr=1-1

    WD20EARS - http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digit...1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1291451834&sr=1-1

    Both of those drives are quiet out of the box but most folks adjust the AAM to 128 (matching the A/V dedicated drives) with a program called hddscan (http://www.hddscan.com) to make them quieter.

    You can find more information about adjusting the AAM and Intellipark settings (for WD drives manufactured prior to 09/15/10) on the Drive Expansion and Drive Upgrade FAQ (specifically Section IV, #32 and Section V, #14 respectively):

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=5616160#post5616160

    Hope that helps and happy upgrading!
     
  13. Dec 4, 2010 #333 of 2843
    comer

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    I'd say it's not the drive, but hardaware problem. Try a different PC/Laptop if you can. If not - see what you can do to make it more stable - remove overclock, reset BIOS to safe defaults and so on.
     
  14. Dec 4, 2010 #334 of 2843
    richsadams

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    I thought that at first as well, but if it were hardware related (other than the hard drive that is) I'm confused as to why the upgrade would fail near the same point every time. Wouldn't it be problematic from the start? :confused:
     
  15. Dec 4, 2010 #335 of 2843
    cds618

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    I want to thank both Richsadams & Comer for your help. I ran both quick & extended tests and the both passed. I than read Comer's reply & did as he suggested. I reset my bios to the fail safe defaults (It wasn't overclocked), I disconnected my DVDr/CDr drive & used that SATA cable for the 2tb drive, I ran the software from a USB drive, I also disconnected all other cables from my computer (USB hub & network cable). ran the software again & it worked no problems, took about 2:40 to copy, I expanded than super sized. Put it back in my Tivo, fired that mother up & Woo Hoo 317 HD hours.

    Thank again guys.
    I will send you a donation Comer

    Chris :):up::):up::):up:
     
  16. Dec 4, 2010 #336 of 2843
    richsadams

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    Excellent and good to know that info. Comer was correct and I'm glad I wasn't. ;) Enjoy your "new" TiVo!
     
  17. Dec 4, 2010 #337 of 2843
    hisjerry

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    Comer,

    Another success story with the WD20EARS (manufactured 10-30-2010) that was pulled from an external WD Elements external drive. All I did was: Hooked up tivo drive (via SATA), hook up new drive (via USB enclosure), set AAM to 128 (using HDDScan), popped in Comer's CD & followed directions. After a few hours, popped the new drive back in Tivo and confirmed 317 HD hours.

    Donation already sent! Thanks! :up:

    -hisjerry
     
  18. Dec 4, 2010 #338 of 2843
    stanlam

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    Hi Rich,

    thanks a million. I spent 2 hours last night trying to read through different thread and could not find an answer. I also sent several email to people on ebay selling these drives, but they won't tell me the model #. Thanks again.
     
  19. Dec 4, 2010 #339 of 2843
    Tivoitis

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    I recently did an upgrade to my Tivo HD and used the WD20EURS - this is the newest model in the Western Digital AV-GP line and it's a touch more energy-efficient.
     
  20. Dec 5, 2010 #340 of 2843
    cds618

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    Stan,

    I bought the WD20EVDS on Ebay last week. search for WD20EVDS & look in the list for the one priced at $99 or best offer with free priority shipping, the guy is in PA. I offered to buy it for $85 & he counter offered for $92 said that's the cheapest he could sell it for. I couldn't find that drive for less anywhere else. It arrived 5 days later with a manufacture date of 11/4/2010
     

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