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Premiere Drive Upgrade Instructions - with all-in-one jmfs Live CD

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by comer, Sep 20, 2010.

  1. rif

    rif New Member

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    Hi all

    Are the instructions on page 1 still current? I've done this a few times with several series 2 and TivoHD's so just need to be pointed to the latest download and steps.

    I hope this isn't rude, but I can't get through the 90+ pages on the thread.

    At a minimun, I'm looking to replace my failing premier xl's 1tb drive with another.

    I am a longtime tivo owner, 10+ years, but new to the forum so PM won't work.

    -david
     
  2. videobruce

    videobruce OTA is still alive

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    Why can't the numerous software programs do the same thing? Isn't that what they do; byte for byte copy? :confused:
     
  3. unitron

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    I guess they can't (if they can't--I haven't tried any of them but in reading about them it seems some can't or don't or won't) because they were written differently with just PC drives in mind.

    For the rest of us there's always

    dd

    or

    ddrescue

    or

    dd_rescue

    on the Linux command line if we need something that ignores anything higher level than the 1s and 0s of the bytes.
     
  4. Mar 3, 2016 #2804 of 2850
    mattack

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    Is 2T still the maximum size? (I did read the first article again..)

    If so, then I guess MFSTools is still the solution for (1) pre-Roamio, and/or (2) non-Windows for > 2 TB.. right?

    I've been saying I'd upgrade my P4 for a long time, but the simple drop in Roamio upgrade to 3 TB was so easy.. and I filled it up quite a while ago (I've been essentially at full for a long time, don't think I've lost any if not many programs.. but I manually cull things)..

    I finally changed _most_ primetime SPs to HD, so really do need more space.. (yes I know that's insane... 3 TB is huge..)

    Even though I am comfortable with command line programs of course, jmfs was nice/easy to use.

    But here's the mfstools thread:
    http://tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=529148
     
  5. wood252ota

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    I have 2 Tivo Premieres, one that I upgraded with a 2TB drive and one that had the original 320GB drive. The tivo with the 320GB drive is getting disk errors and failed kickstart 54. The tivo still boots up and works, but sometimes it restarts when it is booting and sometimes hesitates when playing back recorded programs. I tried using jmfs to copy the 320GB drive to a wd20eurs, but it was getting lots of errors doing the copy. Then the wd20 got kicked (don't ask) during the copying and the jmfs ended when the wd20 got a write error. Since I have to redo the copy again, I'm wondering what would be the best way to do this. I don't need any of the recordings on the 320GB drive. Below is what I thought my options are.
    1) Try jmfs again with a new wd20. But I don't know what the jmfs does when it gets a read error and what it then writes to the target drive.
    2) Do a "mfstools copy /dev/sda /dev/sdb" to just copy the tivo base code to the wd20. Hopefully there are no read errors when it does that.
    3) Do a jmfs with the 320GB drive that was taken out of the first tivo when it was upgraded to 2TB. That drive didn't have any errors and hopefully still doesn't after sitting unused for a few years. The bad part of this is it will have a very old build on it.
    Does anyone have any recommendations or other suggestions on what is the best way to go to bring the tivo back to life ? Thanks for the help.
     
  6. ggieseke

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    Post the model number(s) and I'll send you links to clean Premiere images that you can restore with DvrBARS and expand with jmfs. Your original drive might get you there, but since you don't care about the recordings it's probably a lot easier and quicker to start over from scratch.
     
  7. mattack

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    I admit I haven't done it in a while, but #2 seems like it should work.. You should even be able to go to 4 TB. (I bought a 6 TB drive with the mention that the tools may eventually support 6 TB..) I'll likely upgrade this weekend.
     
  8. monsjic

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    @ggieseke Would love to get the clean image for TCD748000. :)
     
  9. ggieseke

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    PM sent.
     
  10. Apr 3, 2016 #2810 of 2850
    Dr_Zoidberg

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    I am replacing the 2TB drive with a 3TB unit in my Premiere XL4. I could've done the work on a Mac with a USB dock, but I an trying the PC/Linux track first. Once I got a working PC with SATA ports that recognized the drives (and a functioning PATA DVD rom drive), I'm off and running with the Copy Portion of the process.

    I'll update later after I've done the other steps.
     
  11. Apr 3, 2016 #2811 of 2850
    unitron

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    Unless things have changed, jmfs needs to start with an unexpanded source drive, does it not?
     
  12. Apr 3, 2016 #2812 of 2850
    Dr_Zoidberg

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    Yes...? My Premiere XL4 came with a 2TB drive.

    I'm doing the Copy part of "Copy, Expand, Supersize". According to my calculations, it'll be done around 2-3AM, aka 12 1/2 hours to copy 2TB. Then I'll do the next two things.
     
  13. Apr 3, 2016 #2813 of 2850
    jmbach

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    If memory serves me and you are using comer's unmodified JMFS 1.04, you will not successfully expand your drive because of a signed 32 bit variable issue. There is a modified version that you can find in the DIY 4TB thread. The alternative would be to use MFSTools 3.2 to do the copy.
     
  14. Apr 4, 2016 #2814 of 2850
    Dr_Zoidberg

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    The copy finished overnight (12 hours), and the expand does fail, so I'd like to find the right thread and do the right process rather than guess. Which thread would the 4TB DIY be? I did some searching and found these two - is it one of these or another?

    This one is for Roamio (and XP?):
    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=528428&highlight=4tb

    or should I use the steps in the generic MFStools thread?
    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=529148&highlight=4tb

    gonna put the original, working drive back in, for now, because I won't be able to work on this for a couple days, now.
     
  15. Apr 4, 2016 #2815 of 2850
    jmbach

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    Start here and go to the deprecated method to find the modified JMFS. You will not have to copy the drive again but just do the expand. MFSR is only for Roamio and does not copy anything. You can use the MFSTool to redo the whole copy. MFSTool with expand while it copies.


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  16. Apr 4, 2016 #2816 of 2850
    Dr_Zoidberg

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    I think you're offering two options via mfstools.

    1. Using the copied drive, run "mfsadd -x /dev/sdX" with X being the new drive's letter, and it'll create a new 1TB media partition with the remaining space on the new drive.

    2. Redo copy, and the mfstools 'copy' will expand as necessary.

    Do I understand it right?
     
  17. Apr 4, 2016 #2817 of 2850
    jmbach

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    No. One method uses MFSTools copy command and the other is using a modified JMFS. The post has a couple of links in it.

    You cannot use MFSAdd to expand a premiere image.
     
  18. Apr 4, 2016 #2818 of 2850
    Dr_Zoidberg

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    Thanks for the clarification! Obviously, I thought MFStools worked for the Premiere, too. Now, I know better. I was going to ask comer to update the first post to reflect the larger disk sizes for the Premieres, but it seems comer hasn't posted since 2011.

    In any case, I downloaded the deprecated 1.05 version and was able to do the expansion and ran the Supersize. I now have 477 HD hours available, total!
     
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  19. Apr 4, 2016 #2819 of 2850
    jmbach

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    Good

    Just to clarify. You can use MFSTools 3.2 on a premiere. It expands while copying by increasing the size of the two media zones and not by adding an additional partition like JMFS does.
     
  20. DeekayLBC

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    Was upgrading from a 2TB to 3TB. Using WD "Purple" line of HD. Copy was successful but when I went to EXPAND I got the return error in red letters "expand did not finish successfully".

    Any suggestions? Thanks in advance.
     

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