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Premiere Drive Upgrade Instructions - with all-in-one jmfs Live CD

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by comer, Sep 20, 2010.

  1. Feb 4, 2014 #2461 of 2843
    jmbach

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    The simplest for them is to ship you the whole unit and let you dismantle and upgrade it.
    The second simplest is let them buy you a plane ticket so you can fly to them or wait until you are ready to visit them for another reason. (the last option is what my parents choose all the time)
     
  2. Feb 4, 2014 #2462 of 2843
    scoombs

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    Cannot argue with a single point you make, as that would be easiest for them. :)

    Having the whole unit was my original plan as well, but it is an international shipping scenario and the weight/size of the entire device and associated outrageous fees though feasible, make it an unpalatable option. On the plus side they have children local to them who can be indentured to be my hands for the local labor if the technical details are taken care of in advance.
     
  3. Feb 4, 2014 #2463 of 2843
    Cybernut

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    I didn't know TiVo had service available outside US.
     
  4. Feb 4, 2014 #2464 of 2843
    scoombs

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    Puerto Rico, so only barely International. :)

    I also believe Tivo was available in Canada and the UK at one time if not still.
     
  5. Feb 4, 2014 #2465 of 2843
    jmbach

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    If cost is a factor and they don't mind not saving their shows, I would use DvrBARS and make a truncated backup of your elite image and do a quick restore to a 2TB drive and then c&de. Mail it to them and let someone there put it in for them. It seems that a newer S4 image can be run on an older S4 model as a few people have experimented with and have demonstrated. Not sure about the reverse. However YMMV. If it doesn't work, then have them mail both drives to you and do it the normal way. Your other option is to go to the DvrBARS thread and see if you can get the correct image for that model. Then use DvrBARS to put it on a drive and JMFS to expand.
     
  6. Feb 4, 2014 #2466 of 2843
    ggieseke

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    I could cook up a pre-expanded 2TB 746 image and upload it to Dropbox. If you want to go that route, let me know what model of drive you plan to use so it doesn't exceed the actual number of sectors on your drive.

    Depending on the hardware and expertise available at your in-laws you could write it to a drive and ship it to them, or let them do the entire procedure locally.
     
  7. Feb 4, 2014 #2467 of 2843
    jmbach

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    If ggieseke makes you a 2TB image then this makes it even easier. As long as your in-laws have a windows based computer, you could both install a program called TeamViewer which allows you to remotely control their computer. DvrBARS is a windows based program. They can buy the drive and an external dock. Then you can tell them or whomever how to hook everything up. Then remotely you can download the image ggieseke gives you to their computer and download DvrBARS as well. Remotely run the program and place the image on the drive. Since you did not have to pay for the drive or shipping, spend that money and buy ggieseke several beers for helping you.
     
  8. Feb 5, 2014 #2468 of 2843
    scoombs

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    Thanks all very much for the responses. I decided to go the safe route and get my hands on the unit and do it all myself so I can fully test and ensure it is functional.

    I appreciate the feedback.
     
  9. Mar 1, 2014 #2469 of 2843
    jthomas

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    Bringing this conversation from another thread... I am trying to use JMFS to expand a WD30EURX to get it to the 2.1 tb so I can work my way up from there. When booting the JMFS from CD my computer (HP Elitebook 8460p, it has a Intel Core i5 vPro, with a Mobile Intel QM67 Express Chipset) the 3tb drive is not recognized at all. It will recognize any other drive I plug in. I'm using a sata to usb adapter with power supply for the hard drive. I am using usb 2.0. I gave it a shot on a usb 3.0 port but that didn't work either. Any help would be appreciated.
     
  10. Mar 1, 2014 #2470 of 2843
    jmbach

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    What SATA to USB adapter are you using. One other thing to try is with the drive connected, boot JMFS and drop to the command line and run fdisk -l (lower case L) and see if the Linux OS sees the drive.

    Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk
     
  11. Mar 1, 2014 #2471 of 2843
    unitron

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    I'm predicting jmbach's post will be edited to change that from

    frisk -l

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    fdisk -l
     
  12. Mar 1, 2014 #2472 of 2843
    jmbach

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    Edited ;-D
    Can't trust spell check.
     
  13. Mar 2, 2014 #2473 of 2843
    jthomas

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    I'll try the fdisk, the frisk didn't work well. I'll have to wait until tomorrow though. I tried expanding the max size of the vhd and then expand it with the jmfs tools in a virtual machine. Right now it is restoring with DVRBars. It's running slow since the vhd is on my NAS and it's running over the network. If that works out should get me up to the 2.1 tb. If I'm wrong and wasting my time someone please tell me.
     
  14. Mar 2, 2014 #2474 of 2843
    jmbach

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    After the image is restored to the drive. Run it in the TiVo to make sure it works and has the latest OS. Then take it out and make a backup of that image.
    If you are using a virtual machine to run JMFS, then make sure the VHD you are expanding on has the correct number of sectors.
     
  15. Mar 2, 2014 #2475 of 2843
    jmbach

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    Again, if the image you are working with does not have the latest OS on it, if you place it on a 3TB (even if the image is not expanded) you will boot loop.
     
  16. Mar 2, 2014 #2476 of 2843
    jmbach

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    I would recommend placing the image on a 1TB drive first. Run it in the TiVo, make sure it has the latest OS, then use JMFS to expand that image to 1TB. Put it back in the TiVo to make sure it works. Transfer that image to the 3TB drive. Swap the area on the drive where partition 10 and 12 lie and put it back in the TiVo to make sure it works and is operational. Then we can work in expanding it to 3TB.
     
  17. Mar 2, 2014 #2477 of 2843
    jthomas

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    The image I'm using does have the latest OS, it is 20.3.8, I made sure my TiVo was updated before I took the image with DVRBars. Unfortunately, the only other drives I have around the house that size are my drives in my NAS. To work with I have a 320 from a 746320 TiVo drive (Doesn't work in the TiVo, I accidentally mounted it in disk manager), a 500 from a 746500 TiVo drive from my other premiere and a 500 from my 750500 that is untouched. I'm "practicing" on my 320 gb drive since before I mess with my new 750500. The 3tb with the image from the 500 gb drive does work in the TiVo, it is just only using 500 gb of the drive.
     
  18. Bierce

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    Hi all -
    I'm having a heck of a time getting JMFS to just run. On two different systems/motherboards, using either a CD burned from the .iso and/or a USB stick made with Universal USB Installer (1.9.5.2), I boot up, but right after seeing either two or four penguins, and the "Running Linux Live scripts.." loads (all 10 stars), the cursor does a carriage return then stops flashing and everything's frozen.
    Really odd that this happens on two different systems.
    Any ideas?

    System 1 - both CD and USB boot - is:
    Asus P5Q Pro Mobo
    Intel Core2Quad Q6600 CPU

    System 2 - USB boot - is:
    IBM Thinkcentre M58p
    Intel Core2Duo E8500 CPU

    I have a new Premiere 4 with 500Gb (courtesy of TiVo's !@#$ 11.3x firmware upgrade that bricked my 1.5 Tb expanded HD) and just need to expand that puppy.

    Thanks in advance!
     
  19. jmbach

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    What other peripherals / ports does the system have. How is the TiVo drive connected to the system. Is it connected while the system is booting.
     
  20. Bierce

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    Other than the monitor, keyboard, mouse, no peripherals connected. Both systems have serial ports that I turned off in BIOS.

    The Asus system had the original TiVo drive as well as the new WD20EURS attached to SATA ports on the motherboard, while the IBM had original Tivo HD in an eSATA dock attached to eSATA port, and the new disk connected to the SATA port on MB.
    Each computer's original HDDs were disconnected. Only the DVD-ROM (IDE on Asus, SATA on IBM) remained attached on each, and I'm pretty sure at least one of the times with using the USB I disconnected that as well, but I will try that again to make sure.

    On the Asus P5Q, BIOS showed the drives connected under SATA info. And for both, the drives were connected during system boot.

    I imagine there might be some log file during the boot and Linux Live load, but with the frozen cursor, I can't even get to to a prompt to poke around the RAM disk I think it forms when booting.

    Speaking of, the Asus system has 4Gb RAM and the IBM has 2Gb, but I don't think the JMFS needs very much, correct?
     

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