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Premiere Drive Upgrade Instructions - with all-in-one jmfs Live CD

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by comer, Sep 20, 2010.

  1. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    When booting from a cd-r that's designed to do stuff to hard drives, it's not the worst idea in the world to disconnect the hard drives to which you don't want anything done.
     
  2. N2UMK

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    Understand, however it's not easy to do with a laptop.
    I also swapped drives in the dual drive with the same result.
    It's odd to me that jmfs ap does not see the wd20ezrx drive in either port.

    still interested in the forum's ideas.
    Pat
     
  3. jmbach

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    When I had an issue like that, I used another USB drive adapter.
    Another thing to try is to exit out of JMFS, insert each drive separately a minute apart and restart JMFS.
     
  4. Dec 2, 2013 #2404 of 2843
    N2UMK

    N2UMK New Member

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    Thanks I will try that.
    Does anyone know if the WD20EZRX drive is compatible with TIVO/jmfs?
    Also it appears to have an issue when you disable the head park feature (not mine specifically - this model drive in general).
    Does anyone know about this?

    Pat
     
  5. Dec 3, 2013 #2405 of 2843
    nooneuknow

    nooneuknow TiVo User Since 2007

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    They work fine, in both respects, as well as working very well.

    Only issue is that you can not adjust the drive acoustic management setting.

    They can be rather noisy when they are hard at work, from my experience.

    Some say they are quiet. I'm never close enough to care, when watching TV. I actually turn AAM off, on drives that allow adjustment, because it provides a small amount of added seeking performance (even according to the drive's full specification documentation). But, I doubt it matters in a TiVo. I like to be able to put my ear up close to my TiVos and hear just how busy the drives are.

    If anybody has found a way to adjust the acoustics, or has found an EZRX with firmware that allows it, now would be a good time to speak up.

    I have a suspicion the chip that would normally exist for AAM, is not present on these drives.
     
  6. Dec 3, 2013 #2406 of 2843
    N2UMK

    N2UMK New Member

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    nooneuknow -
    Appreciate the info.
    Waiting for an opportunity to pull the 320 from the premiere (again) and try jmfs again.
    This site is helpful; glad tivo-ites are willing to help.
    Thanks.

    Pat
     
  7. lukinsj

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    I have a TCD746320 that has the GSOD. It appears the Hard Drive is dead. I am running out to get a new 1TB WD Green drive. Could you please send me the PM to re-image my drive?

    Thanks in advance
     
  8. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    For that 1TB drive you're going to pay a very large fraction of the cost of a 2TB drive.

    Hint, hint.
     
  9. lukinsj

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    I know, but it's all that was in stock near me. At least it was on sale, so I didn't feel like I was getting totally screwed.
     
  10. ggieseke

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    PM sent.
     
  11. rich14au

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    I have a TCD746320 that is stuck on the initial "Welcome! Starting up..." screen. I think the HDD is the problem because I am able to swap out the drive with the HDD in my other Premiere and it boots up normally. Likewise, putting the dead drive into the other Premiere results in the same problem, it stays on the "Welcome" screen. The weird thing is that I can hookup the dead drive to my PC and run SpinRite on it. SpinRite did find and recover a handful of bad sectors but that means the drive is not really dead. After running SpinRite and putting it back into the Premiere, it still won't boot. Perhaps too much of the drive has been corrupted?

    So my question is, can I still use this drive with the JMFS utility to copy to a brand new 2TB HDD or will the corruption just copy over to the new HDD? And if copying the bad HDD is not recommended, could I make a copy of my good Premiere HDD to use in the other Premiere. I understand that I'd be losing the shows on the bad HDD but would it even work to copy a HDD from different Premiere box?
     
  12. unitron

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    You can try try copying the supposedly screwed up drive to something at least as big with jmfs and see if it works or not.

    If it doesn't, you can copy your other known good Premiere drive to that 2TB, and then do a Clear & Delete Everything to get it to sync up with the change in TiVo Service Number, just the same as owners of older TiVos.

    This will leave the "problem" drive unwritten to in case there's any hope in the future of saving the shows on it.
     
  13. rich14au

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    Last night I got my "dead" 320GB HDD to upgrade onto a new 2TB HDD. The JMFS copy encountered 1 error along the way and had to retry some sectors before it reported the copy was successful. I then expanded and suspersized the new HDD. Both operations reported success. So then I installed the new HDD in my TiVo Premiere and powered it up. After a couple of minutes the "Welcome" screen went away and it was replaced by a "Installing Update. This may take a few minutes" screen. After about 10 minutes or so the TiVo was back up and running. Yes! I went to the System Info to confirm my additional storage and it reported the expected 318 hours of HD. What I also noticed was that the software version was at 20.3.8. I guess it was the 20.3.8 update that failed and caused the original HDD to get into an un-bootable state. Thankfully the JMFS tools was able to work around this problem and I'm all set now. Thanks for the help.
     
  14. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    All mad props to comer for jmfs and all that, but to be perfectly nitpicky about it, it was Antonio Diaz Diaz's

    ddrescue

    (which is what comer included in jmfs to handle the copying part)

    more properly referred to as Gnu ddrescue, which worked around your problem.

    Of course comer gets full credit for the part that did the expanding, which the older MFS Tools/MFS Live and WinMFS couldn't handle on S4s because of changes TiVo made.
     
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    jmbach

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    With a little help from ggeiseke finally figured out why JMFS does not work on the OLED S3s. They use a 32bit MFS layout and JMFS looks for a 64bit MFS layout that is found in the 65x series S3s and newer.

    Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk
     
  16. jetcobra

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    I have a THD that I got in 2009 - I used winmfs to upgrade the unit with a 1 TB drive at that time. Last night I got the Welcome! Powering Up screen forever so I figured it may be the HDD, so I replaced it with the original 160 GB drive and it worked. So I would like to put another upgrade drive in it but would like to use 2 TB this time.

    From this thread I gather that Comer's jmfs rev 104 would work for that purpose. It that correct? Also, is there any chance I could use the failed drive to to the upgrade such as rich14au did above? Or should I use the 160 GB original drive to do so? But if I do this I will not have the latest TIVO software, correct? I really don't care about recordings on the failed drive.

    I would like to order a WD AV-GP 2 TB drive today to get here for the weekend if possible so any inputs or suggestions welcomed.

    Thanks
     
  17. unitron

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    I'm going to overstep my (non-existant) authority and suggest that any answers to jetcobra's post be placed in this S3 forum thread

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=513592

    instead of here, so as to keep it all corralled.
     
  18. oneill25

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    I downloaded the file and burnt it to a disc. When I put in computer to boot from it, it doesn't work correctly. My computer starts and it goes to blank screen where stuff comes up like it is booting from disc, it is a couple lines with a lot of dots "........" after it, then another line of words and more dots, then comp reboots and same thing happens again. Maybe I did something wrong when making the disc, but I made a second disc and it does the same.


    What am I doing wrong, or will it just not work for me? I really hope I can get it working, I have a Premier XL, and my hard drive is going bad, and I really dont want to have to loose everything and buy a new TiVo.

    So please anyone, know how to get it working??
     
  19. lpwcomp

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    John's...
    What file did you download and how did you burn it to disk?
     
  20. oneill25

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    I downloaded the "jmfs-rev104.iso.zip". And used the burn image option on my comp. I have a windows 8 comp that I made disc with, and I right clicked on it and said burn image. I also tried making a copy with "DVD decrypter" set in the mode to burn iso files to disc.

    Oh and I of course unzipped/ extracted it first, then tried the methods above to burn the iso.
     

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