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Premiere Drive Upgrade Instructions - with all-in-one jmfs Live CD

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by comer, Sep 20, 2010.

  1. Nov 8, 2010 #221 of 2843
    comer

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    Thanks a lot! :up: I added link to your mirror to the guide :)
     
  2. Nov 10, 2010 #222 of 2843
    jkwaterman

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    With the premiere, if you have an upgraded internal drive, do you still need a software hack to add an external expansion drive? Is there a thread discussing how this is done with the premiere, or is it the same procedure as the Tivi HD? I have seen comments that this has been done, but they did not elaborate.
     
  3. Nov 10, 2010 #223 of 2843
    comer

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    You can do it with the current set of tools. However, if your total storage will be greater than 2Tb then you will experience a glitch of unknown consequences. So you better off just using 2tb drive.
     
  4. Nov 10, 2010 #224 of 2843
    aaronwt

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    I think I'm ready to try this upgrade. I'm going to sell one of my XL boxes and put a 1TB drive in a regular Premiere. I have a new two platter hitachi drive that has been sitting around for almost a year that I willl use for it.
     
  5. Nov 12, 2010 #225 of 2843
    chalooch101

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    i upgraded my tivo premiere to a 1tb now i want to upgrate the 1tb to a 2tb. if i follow the same steps will i be able to copy the 1tb to the 2 tb
     
  6. Nov 12, 2010 #226 of 2843
    JFalc

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    Thank you, thank you, thank you.

    I have ran the upgrade on two Premiers and the "version 68" cd worked great.

    If I want to 'supersize' my undersized 2tb drive, is there such a feature in the new 1.04 version ? I am asking if this can be done without 'copying' or starting over. In essence, I want to 'expand' and already copied and expanded drive (pre Nov version).?

    Will this work with v. 1.04?
     
  7. Nov 12, 2010 #227 of 2843
    comer

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    No, sorry :( You can expand only once from stock drive. You can not expand an already expanded drive.
     
  8. Nov 12, 2010 #228 of 2843
    comer

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    You can "supersize" at any time without copying or starting over. You can not expand the same drive more than once.
     
  9. Nov 12, 2010 #229 of 2843
    davidahn

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  10. Nov 13, 2010 #230 of 2843
    comer

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    In short - bug-limited by Tivo. But you can do it if you are adventurous enough ;) Read about it here and here.
     
  11. Nov 14, 2010 #231 of 2843
    Tivoitis

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    I've got a couple of Tivo HD's and I'm going to try to upgrade using the Western Digital WD20EURS, a 2TB drive. Do I need to worry about the Advanced Format? I still have my original drive available as a source, but I sure it's a pretty ancient software version on there. I had upgraded to a 750GB drive right after I bought them originally, so it's probably a 3yr old version of the THD software.

    Will I have problems using such an old version? Should I clone the drive, install and let the software update, then pull it out after the software is up-to-date and then expand and supersize it? Or can I just clone, expand, and supersize it from the the get go?
     
  12. Nov 14, 2010 #232 of 2843
    Anthony GT

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    Just tried to Supersize on my 2TB drive and it resulted in no change in recording capacity. The drive was expanded using the previous version of the expander. It seems like a pretty simple process so I'm not sure what I am missing. The only think I can think of is that I used a USB --> SATA converter. Do I need a direct SATA connection?
     
  13. Nov 14, 2010 #233 of 2843
    comer

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    By recording capacity , do you mean space bar or system info?
     
  14. Nov 14, 2010 #234 of 2843
    Anthony GT

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    System info. It stayed at 317 HD hours.

    Wait a sec. Tha's what it's supposed to be isn't it? I need to stop doing these things early in the morning.
     
  15. Nov 14, 2010 #235 of 2843
    comer

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    Well, that's what it supposed to be after Supersize :) Without it, system would show 287 HD hours. So you are supersized! :D
     
  16. Nov 14, 2010 #236 of 2843
    Anthony GT

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    Thanks Comer. I realized it right after I posted it. I vow to do no more hacks until after 10:00am!

    What should a 1 TB drive end up with?
     
  17. Nov 14, 2010 #237 of 2843
    comer

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    I don't remember clearly. I think without it - 156, with 180-ish.
     
  18. Nov 14, 2010 #238 of 2843
    Anthony GT

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    Hmmm, my Premiere with 1 TB drive is showing 145 HD hours after Supersize. Will it mess anything up if I try to Supersize it again?
     
  19. Nov 14, 2010 #239 of 2843
    richsadams

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    Well...AFAIK no one has tried upgrading with the new WD20EURS AV/GP drive so you'll be a bit of a TiVo Pioneer!

    TiVo, Linux, Apple, etc. are unaffected by the 400K sector "advanced format"...it's only a Windows issue.

    Based on some other reports, it would probably be best to slip the original TiVo drive back in, force a connection and update before upgrading. (FWIW updates are not incremental so it will go from whatever's on there to the latest.)

    If you want to receive the latest update ASAP you can try forcing a connection to TiVo to see if it will download. (It may take several connections before the update will appear.)

    1. TiVo Central
    2. Messages and settings
    3. Settings
    4. Phone and network
    5. Connect to the TiVo service now

    Once the download has finished and loaded look at the "Last Status" line on that screen or in System Information and if it says "Pending restart" instead of a date your new software will automatically install at 2 a.m. your time. Or you can reboot TiVo and it will install the update immediately. You will see these two screens during the reboot process when it does.

    You can reboot TiVo via the menu screens:

    1. TiVo Central
    2. Messages & Setup
    3. Restart or reset system
    4. Restart the TiVo DVR

    Or you can simply unplug it, wait about 10 seconds for the hard drive to spin down and plug it back in.

    If you have the patience it would be helpful if you could perform the upgrade, install the drive, see if it will boot up and if so if it will boot up from a menu restart. That would be valuable information to determine if this particular drive has the soft reboot issue (hangs at the "Welcome" screen after a menu restart). If it does hang, either at the initial boot or a menu restart you will probably need to run the wdidle3.exe program to extend the Intellipark timeout to five minutes. (See the Drive Expansion FAQ, Section IV, #29 for details: http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=5616160#post5616160.) I suspect that it won't be an issue since this is a new model and other models manufactured after September 15th or so no longer have to have the firmware updated.

    If you could also give us the drive's manufacture date that would be valuable too. TIA for that.

    Happy upgrading!
     
  20. Nov 14, 2010 #240 of 2843
    richsadams

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    you can Supersize at any time w/o affecting any of your recordings, etc. The result s/b 156 hours.
     

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