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Premiere Drive Upgrade Instructions - with all-in-one jmfs Live CD

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by comer, Sep 20, 2010.

  1. Oct 30, 2010 #201 of 2843
    EricM

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    Me too. Based on previous experiences, I absolutely do not trust USB to copy the entire contents of a hard drive. The (SATA) copy onto a 5400 rpm Samsung achieved 25MB/s average, while the copy onto a WD "green" achived 35MB/s average. Both are 1.5TB.

    I'm willing to run further tests next week on the unit that was problematic since I have a spare 1.5TB (Seagate 7200.11) here at work. Just have to coordinate this with my season passes :) First I have to reproduce the problem. Then boot off the original drive and take it out of standby mode. If that doesn't work, to be thorough I'd have to clear&erase everything still on FW 9.3. Only if that doesn't work either will I connect to the network and upgrade the original drive to 11j.
     
  2. Oct 30, 2010 #202 of 2843
    retiredqwest

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    I dropped the Stock THD back in and put it in Standby. Copied and expanded using JMFS and it booted just like normal and then went into Standby...... and I brought it of Standby.

    I was just curious.
     
  3. Oct 31, 2010 #203 of 2843
    aparikh

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    Thanks...

    My current 1TB and the 750GB drives were made through WinMFS. Can I still use your tool or am I out of luck for the moment?
     
  4. Oct 31, 2010 #204 of 2843
    Brent W

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    Thank you very much. I just updated one of my premiere's to 2TB. Thank you for all your work, and sharing it with everyone.
     
  5. Nov 3, 2010 #205 of 2843
    mrthornhill

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    Newegg has a sale on the Western Digital WD20EARS 2TB drive today for $89.
    Looking through this thread I've seen that at least one person has successfully used this drive to upgrade their Premiere.
    I'm curious what you guys think though, comparing that drive to the AV-GP WD20EVDS 2TB drive. At the moment it'd be $40 more expensive. Worth it for the supposed additional AV device features?
     
  6. Nov 4, 2010 #206 of 2843
    Befazzled

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    Apply coupon code EMCZZYR25 and get another 10% off of that price.

    Great deal I couldn't pass it up. :)
     
  7. Nov 4, 2010 #207 of 2843
    richsadams

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    The WD20EVDS is a good choice, however TiVo doesn't or cannot take advantage of the various A/V drive's proprietary features. The only plus is that the AAM is already set to the lowest seek level (128) making it very quiet. However you can use hddscan to adjust the AAM on the EARS model even though it is pretty quiet out of the box.
     
  8. Nov 6, 2010 #208 of 2843
    naggeneen

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    What great information here! Thanks!

    I have run into one problem using the BlacXDuet Dual Drive USB/eSATA dock. Drives are recognized when in the HDD1 slot, but not in the HDD2 slot.

    The company who makes the dock has a note in the box that, when using the eSATA connection, the operating system must have a port multiplier driver installed... but that it's not an issue when running connected via USB as most operating systems have port multiplying over USB installed... but maybe not? I've switched around the new drive and the original TiVo drive, but the application only recognizes the drive in the HDD1 slot and the internal hard drive of the laptop.

    Any input or advice would be appreciated!

    Thanks again!
    Naggeneen
     
  9. Nov 6, 2010 #209 of 2843
    richsadams

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    That same issue was reported a page or two ago (or it might have been on the companion thread). The OP ended up using two separate connections...I think two SATA/USB adapters but it might have been two single SATA docks, or it might have been one of each. That's probably what you'll need to do as well. You can still use your dock but you'll need to get a SATA/USB adapter or another dock...unless of course you can connect your hard drives directly to SATA ports on your motherboard (which is the ideal way to upgrade).
     
  10. Nov 6, 2010 #210 of 2843
    retiredqwest

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    Since I have a Duet.... thought I'd give this a try....

    And no it only recognizes 1 drive.... probably because the underlying Linux OS it uses does not support USB port multiplying.

    Scotty
     
  11. Nov 6, 2010 #211 of 2843
    richsadams

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    :up:
     
  12. Nov 6, 2010 #212 of 2843
    comer

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    Supersize has been released. You will get 317 HD hours from 2TB drive. Enjoy! :)
     
  13. Nov 6, 2010 #213 of 2843
    efrsysop

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    317 HD hours indeed!

    This is working perfectly for me, thanks so much Comer once again, for all of you hard work.

    Of course people are going to want to know how truncated backup is coming along with external storage....

    Still reading in the -%?
     
  14. Nov 6, 2010 #214 of 2843
    comer

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    Yep, still negative. Shame on you, Tivo, using int in 21st century :p:D
    Backup will come eventually :)
     
  15. Nov 7, 2010 #215 of 2843
    jmill

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    317 hours here as well! Thanks comer, everything worked perfectly!
     
  16. Nov 8, 2010 #216 of 2843
    km

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    I'm trying to expand a TivoHD from 1TB internal to 2TB internal. This unit has already been expanded once from the original stock internal to the 1TB using mfslive.

    I did the copy and expand which seemed to work. At least it told me I had something like 1.8TB total.

    Then I plugged it in to the Tivo, which complained that I had an external drive which was not plugged in. I have never had any external drive. I did the only thing I could which was to agree to have it clear the external drive. That results in my getting back to just the 1TB space on the 2TB drive.

    I also tried a copy/expand/supersize. That gives the same external error, and clearing the "external" gets it into a powerup/almost done loop.

    I presume the problem is the previous mfslive expansion. Is there any way around this?
     
  17. Nov 8, 2010 #217 of 2843
    comer

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    Unfortunately - no, unless you want to lose all your recordings. When restoring with expansion MFSTools/WinMFS does (almost) the same thing as JMFS - adds extra partitions. And there are only so many partitions Tivo can take. So when you do expand again, the new partition is one too many for Tivo.

    You can expand THD drive with JMFS either going from stock or from a drive restored by WinMFS without expansion (I don't know if WinMFS has such option, but I believe MFSTools do).
     
  18. Nov 8, 2010 #218 of 2843
    retiredqwest

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    I guess I can comment on this now....

    I spent this weekend trying to expand a stock THD to winmfs and then use JMFS to expand to a larger drive and have it work in the THD. It doesn't, in my case the THD would boot and report 21 hrs HD. I tried this twice....

    After several emails back and forth, Comer came to the conclusion on how many partitions the TIVO can read.

    So, yes you can use JMFS to expand a THD to a larger drive, you just have to use the stock drive as the source.
     
  19. Nov 8, 2010 #219 of 2843
    lessd

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    WinMFS does have have the ability to just use the stock space, after you restore the image the program will ask you if you want to use the extra space, just answer no and your large drive will only have the original image on it and use only only the space that the original drive had.
     
  20. Nov 8, 2010 #220 of 2843
    coold8

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    Hi guys,

    Posted new revision on server in case mediafire stops working or whatever, as a backup. Thanks for the new Version!

    New link:

    http://www.thesocialworldwide.com/jmfs-rev104.iso.zip

    Old Version will still be kept on the server if someone needs it.

    -Dave
     

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