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Premiere Drive Upgrade Instructions - with all-in-one jmfs Live CD

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by comer, Sep 20, 2010.

  1. jmbach

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    The size of a truncated backup of an XL4 or a TP is about the same size. The size of the core partitions and gui data in the MFS partitions is about the same across the whole S4 series. The XL4 has a slightly different partition size of the bootstrap partition but that's about it. We don't have info on a TP4 partition layout (so if anybody would like to post it, thanks in advance) but the truncated backup image would be the same. Have tested this on a TP, XL, and an XL4 sofar. Also tested it on an S3 OLED and an S1. The backups are fatter than WinMFS but that is because the method is different.
     
  2. keffer

    keffer New Member

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    Is there an available Premier 320GB disk image available? Mine died, I have verified the disk is good (SpinRite) and would like to re-image the origional dirve in hopes of recovering programming on my external HD. Is it best to go buy another 320GB dirve with an image on it?
     
  3. unitron

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    When you say, "mine died", do you mean the TiVo itself, the internal drive, or the external drive?
     
  4. jmbach

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    What happened to it since the drive is good. Did you also run the manufacturer diagnostic program for verification.
    PM ggieseke for information on imagine drives.
     
  5. ggieseke

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    If the drive is good (and I trust SpinRite), what happened? Forcing an emergency OS reinstall with a kickstart might get you running again but if you image it the data on your external drive will be gone forever.

    I think the conventional gospel that all recordings are written across both drives once you add an external may be flawed, but the inode tables, database files and directory structure needed to access them are written on the first drive. Even if I'm right and some recordings may be contained entirely on one drive or the other the result is the same.
     
  6. keffer

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    The internal drive died. When booting up TiVo pops up a screen indicating a serious error occurred, to not power off and wait for TiVo to attempt to repair, may take hours. TiVo will eventually reboot, same thing. TiVo rep had me remove the external drive, TiVo recognized it was removed (possibly indicating the external was the problem) but then does same loop. I ran SpinRite in repair mode, it found and made a repair. Put back in TiVo, same problem. Ran SpinRite in detailed diagnostic (30+ hours) and nothing found. I have not run additional diagnostic programs (manufacturer). From what I've read including above it appears my programming on the external is GONE. I just had hopes.

    Appears Fourm will not let me PM. I can be reached at keffer@cox.net.
     
  7. ggieseke

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    Crud. If you already divorced the external drive (thanks for nothing CS) your recordings are probably gone for good.

    You could try the kickstart for an emergency OS install just to eliminate any doubt. I think it's code 50 or 52, but check the FAQ at weaknees.com to be sure. I don't have the link handy.
     
  8. nyjack

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    Will this process and software work with the TiVo Premiere 4 as well as the regular 2 tuner TiVo Premiere?

    Thanks,
    Jack
     
  9. keffer

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    Process is interesing when your pointed in the correct direction. Kickstart instructions are:
    TIVO PREMIERE / PREMIERE XL:

    1. Restart the box and the green light comes on.

    2. The green, and amber lights begin to flicker. Quickly press and release the PAUSE button on the remote.

    IMPORTANT: Unlike the HD and Series3, you cannot continuously hold down the pause button.

    3. Press the one or two digits of the kickstart code from the list below on the remote control. (You will have approximately 10 seconds to do this.) If this was done successfully, the blue light will come on.

    Mine:
    Power on - all lites come on/off
    green lite comes on - tv = welcome screen
    after 50 sec green lite goes out
    green lite comes on/amber lite flashes
    PRESS PAUSE ON REMOTE
    green lite goes off/amber lite on
    PRESS KICKSTARE CODE = 52
    green/yellow/green/yellow/green/yellow....
    lites go out, green comes on - tv almost there...
    after 25 sec get GBOD

    I also tried kickstart codes of 0, 1, 54, & 57 with the exact same results.
     
  10. jmbach

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    Since the last update, when I go into KS mode is do not get the solid blue light but the rapidly alternating green/yellow on my XL (748)
     
  11. jmbach

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    Could not even get into the hard drive KS menu. Hmmmm. :confused: That is somewhat catastrophic. Cables connected securely inside the unit. Make sure power supply voltage okay. If those are good then try a re image. If that doesn't work then a different drive and re image. If that doesn't work, another Tivo :(
     
  12. ggieseke

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    The way the lights work seems to have changed lately from what I've read, but AFAIK the kickstart procedures are contained in ROM or flash memory. You should be able to invoke it even if it the drive is dead or missing and get something different than the standard boot loop.

    I've had problems getting it to work in the past because I programmed most of the keys on my universal remote with "single-press" codes instead of codes that repeated as long as the button was pressed. Once I figured that out I could still get it to work by pressing the pause key over and over until the lights changed state, then entering the code.
     
  13. keffer

    keffer New Member

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    THANKS!! New imaged HD is in the mail (Weaknees). I will make a backup of the HD this time and learn to push programming I want to keep to the computer.
     
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    Sent you a PM, but I'd be deeply grateful if I could get that image also. =)
     
  15. ggieseke

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    Done.
     
  16. maraudx

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    I can host the image on my FTP server. Double win as it's fast and I desperately need an image to recover my dead premier.
     
  17. ggieseke

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    It's a deal :up: I sent you a PM with my email address.
     
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    StorminMike

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    I recently purchased a Premiere 4 since my aging HDR212 is really not worth repairing once the drives die :)

    I don't watch a lot of TV; I mainly use Tivo so on the rare occasion I do want to watch TV there's something good on. As such I don't feel any need to upgrade to a bigger hard drive.

    That said, I want to make a backup of the software on the hard drive so that should it fail prematurely, I can just buy another 500 GB drive and restore to that. With the Series 1 there was the minimal backup option in mfstools that did exactly that. (And I in fact used it after a disk failure on my series 1) I've poked around the threads but from what I can see there doesn't appear to be a series 4 equivalent (eg backup the software but not the actual recordings) yet. Is it out there somewhere and I missed it?

    Assuming it isn't there, does anyone have a rough idea of how well an image of the full 500 GB drive compresses if you do just backup the entire thing?
     
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    jmbach

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    ggieseke has almost a program that will do what you are asking. Working through beta testing now. Depending on the size of the drive and how spread out required elements are inside the MFS media partitions the truncated backup created is under 4gb and will zip down under 2gb.
     
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    Loach

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    OK I must be completely helpless because I can't even get past comer's steps 1 and 2 (download, unzip and burn to CD). I figured I probably should see if I can even accomplish that before I bother investing in a larger hard drive.

    So I downloaded the zipped file successfully from mediafire. First I used winzip to burn it to a CD, but it looks like that just burned the zipped file and didn't extract anything. I knew that wasn't what I wanted so I went back into winzip and unzipped it to the PC's hard drive. That appeared to place the files in folders called "boot" and "JavaMFS", which looked right, so I burned those folders to a CD-R from Windows Explorer. Confirmed that those folders are there on the CD by looking at it in Windows Explorer.

    Took the CD over to an older machine that I will use to accomplish the hard drive upgrade. Changed the BIOS settings to put CD first in the boot order. Tried booting with the CD - no luck. CD drive spins and makes all kinds of noise, but fails to boot and then the hard drive just boots up Windows. Tried it again by hitting F12 for boot options and selected CD and it just says "Selected option not available" or something to that effect.

    So how am I managing to screw this up? I must admit I have zero experience trying to create a boot CD from a downloaded zip file.

    Edit: I see there is another file within the "boot" folder called "initrd" that looks like it has not been unzipped. Could that be causing my problems?
     

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