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Premiere Drive Upgrade Instructions - with all-in-one jmfs Live CD

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by comer, Sep 20, 2010.

  1. rafaelvelasquez2

    rafaelvelasquez2 New Member

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    Thank you for the info. Amazon has got it for $111 right now so I'm gonna get it. In 2-3 days, if all goes well, I should be back here to report some good news. Thanks again.

    Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2
     
  2. ggieseke

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    What model number is it? The only image I have so far is for a TCD 746320, which should work fine on any 746 series. A few others like jmbach have gotten it to work on a 748 series because it recognizes that it has the wrong (or possibly outdated) software and updates itself, but there still may be some issues there - we're not sure yet.
     
  3. ntrance

    ntrance New Member

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    That's the model I have, tcd746320.
     
  4. ggieseke

    ggieseke Active Member

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    PM sent.
     
  5. pspens

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    Is the blocksize option on the dd command important when you're cloning a disk?
     
  6. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    That depends on whether the source drive is in good shape or not.

    Although if it has any problems at all you're better off using

    dd_rescue

    or

    ddrescue


    but to go back to your original question, the larger the block size specified the fewer reads and writes will be necessary and that means you'll be done sooner.

    As long as you don't set the block size too high.
     
  7. pspens

    pspens New Member

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    Well my source drive is in good shape. I did a clone with no parameters of a 1.5 TB disk and it took over 16 hours. The new drive is still questionable to me even though I ran all the tests I could and they all passed. BTW, this was a clone of Windows 7 c: drive. The resulting drive was not bootable and I think I may know why. There is probably a security mechanism related to Windows licensing that encodes something specific about the drive, such as the S/N, so that someone couldn't just clone drives and sell them. I ended up trying dd because the Acronis cloning software which came with the drive (DOM 2009) failed with the error "MFT bitmap corrupted". I ran chkdsk on my c: drive and received no errors, so I'm thinking it has something to do with the fact I'm running Windows 7 and the software Acronis software's date was sometime during Vista and something in the Windows 7 environment broke it. I'll probably call Seagate tomorrow if I can't find a resolution on my own. BTW, dd_rescue and ddrescue; there are 2 different utilities? When I saw someone write dd_rescue, I thought they just made a typo.
     
  8. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    Is/was there a GigaByte brand motherboard involved in any of this?


    Did you do the non-bootable cloning inside of Windows?



    dd

    is a Unix command line utility that actually came from somewhere else, which is why the syntax is different from most of the Unix command line stuff.

    It's available on just about any of the bootable Linux environment cd's.

    The Linux command line utility

    dd_rescue

    is on the MFS Live cd, and is much more flexible than

    dd


    Another Linux command line utility is

    ddrescue

    which is apparently what the jmfs cd uses for the copy part of what it does.

    It, too, is more flexible than

    dd



    You might find

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dd_(Unix)

    to be interesting reading.
     
  9. pspens

    pspens New Member

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    No, thank god. I read about those nightmares in this thread.

    No, I booted to SLAX.

    Thanks. I know this is the wrong thread to be discussing cloning a Windows 7 drive... I appreciate the patience.
     
  10. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    Maybe it's got something to do with the whole advanced format and GPT instead of an MBR thing.

    Other than that, I got nothin'.

    Unless it boots enough to read the S.M.A.R.T. data, including drive model and serial number, and realize that it's not on the same drive on which it was originally installed and balks at that, though I'd expect it to give you some kind of screen saying you had to re-validate the installation or something.

    Okay, now I really got nothin'.
     
  11. pspens

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    The manual which came with the DiskWizard software indicates that during cloning under Vista, the Vista OS disk will be needed for security purposes. Since Windows 7 is just an upgrade of Vista, I suspect the same thing would be true if I had the right version of DiskWizard. Therefore, merely cloning the disk leaves something out, some piece of security verification that I truly own the Windows 7 which I'm copying. BTW, other than not being bootable, the disk looks identical to the original. dd reported no errors. Also interesting is dd runs silently and there does not seem to be a switch to have it do otherwise, so once I executed the dd command, it just sat there for 16 hours doing its thing with no output to the screen.
     
  12. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    Whereas

    dd_rescue

    has a verbose option

    -v

    which causes it to constantly be putting updated figures on the screen.

    ddrescue

    probably does as well, but I don't have any experience with it to speak of.
     
  13. pspens

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    Ok, now I am a little confused. I went to Seagate and downloaded their latest DiskWizard software. I ran the clone option and this time didn't get that bogus error (MFT bitmap corrupted). It went ahead and cloned the disk for me and it is bootable! However, it did NOT ask me for any verification of ownership of the OS. So, either

    1) dd should have worked, or
    2) DiskWizard is automagically doing something that makes the drive bootable.

    :confused:
     
  14. ntrance

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    Thanks for the image! It worked great. I was also able to expand it to a 1tb drive. I wasn't able to copy the image to the disk until I ran the Windows Command Prompt as administrator. I also had to Clear and Delete Everything so that it had the correct Tivo Service Number instead of zeros.
     
  15. unitron

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    May we presume you used the jmfs cd to do the expansion?


    Pity you didn't use a 2TB drive, as it's a one-shot only deal.
     
  16. ntrance

    ntrance New Member

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    Correct, I used the jmfs cd to expand/super size. The 1tb drive was one I had handy for trying it out. I may use a 2tb drive instead.
     
  17. ggieseke

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    Glad it worked. That software is basically just the Windows equivalent of dd with a Microsoft dynamically expanding VHD as the target drive. Since the "amost virgin" source drive the image was based on still had huge chunks of space with all zeroes it compressed down fairly well.

    Running it as administrator and doing a C&DE afterward is normal.

    The next generation is still a work in progress but it's almost there. It can take any Premiere drive (even a 2TB XL4 with months of recordings) down to about 2.7GB, and zipping the resulting image knocks off another 30-40 percent. Once I tweak the "What Not to Backup" code a little further and run a lot more tests it should be ready.
     
  18. Mar 2, 2013 #2118 of 2843
    ldmattice

    ldmattice New Member

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    I was going to use JMFS Live 104 Boot CD to upgrade my drive, but I get no Video (or it hangs, can't tell) on boot up.

    I have an ASUS M5A88-M MOBO with integrated video. I tried going back to factory setting on the board, but no luck. I see the linux loading message (first two lines) then nothing.

    Any suggestions?

    Thanks!
     
  19. Mar 2, 2013 #2119 of 2843
    unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    See if the MFS Live cd v1.4 and the Ultimate Boot cd will boot on that board.

    Then we'll have more info.

    And you should have those cd's on hand for GP anyway.
     
  20. Mar 2, 2013 #2120 of 2843
    ldmattice

    ldmattice New Member

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    Thanks for the quick reply!

    I had an MFS 1.4 CD available and it only boots part way in text mode. Here are the last few lines .....

    Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0.
    using C1E aware idle routine
    Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
    ACPI: Core revision 20080926
    weird, boot CPU (#0) not listedby the BIOS.
    ..TIMER: vector=0x30 apic1=0 pin1=2 apic2=-1 pin2=-1
    CPU0: AMD FX(tm)-4100 Quad-Core Processor
    Booting processor 1 APIC 0x10 ip 0x6000

    I will try ubcd shortly.

    I have tried disabling APIC and shutting down two of the four cores with no luck.

    Thanks in adavance for any more suggestions.
     

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