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Premiere Drive Upgrade Instructions - with all-in-one jmfs Live CD

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by comer, Sep 20, 2010.

  1. Oct 28, 2010 #181 of 2843
    richsadams

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    FWIW I can confirm that jmfs does not detect a stock Series3 HDD.
     
  2. Oct 28, 2010 #182 of 2843
    metronomadic

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    I just got a TiVo premiere, and was planning on upgrading it with a Western Digital 2.0TB WD20EADS. I haven't really seen this drive mentioned much, is there a known problem with these that I'm missing, or is it just that they are slightly older drives or something?
     
  3. Oct 28, 2010 #183 of 2843
    richsadams

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    Several here are using that drive...no problem...just an older model is all.
     
  4. Oct 28, 2010 #184 of 2843
    metronomadic

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    Thanks! You've put my mind at ease.

    And a big thanks to Comer, too! This tool was such a breeze. I ran it the other day at home using USB SATA enclosures, took the drives in to work to change the Intellipark and AAM settings, and now I am all set to power up my Premiere later today.
     
  5. Oct 28, 2010 #185 of 2843
    tcfcameron

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    Older? It sure didn't take long for a 2TB drive to get that designation...

    I would have went with "In WD's ongoing commitment to render older generations of Windows even harder to continue to use, they have begun implementing "advanced format technology" on drive capacities that don't even require it, as opposed to just using it on the drive capacities that had hit the newest size barrier, which actually made its implementation a requirement".

    I really wish they had kept producing parallel drive lines (as opposed to a phase-out transition) in the 2TB and lower capacity drives.

    As a side note, Fry's electronics has been in the habit of advertising EARS drives, but actually selling you EADS ones (Bulk Pack, bare OEM ones, anyway). That's how I got my WD20EADS drives.

    Tongue-in-cheek, check. Grumpy mode: active.
     
  6. Oct 28, 2010 #186 of 2843
    richsadams

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    Perhaps the word "earlier" would have been more apropos. ;)
     
  7. Oct 28, 2010 #187 of 2843
    efrsysop

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    NH & MA...
    I couldn't resist any longer. I finally pulled the trigger on a Premiere XL, Slide Remote, and a WD20EVDS. I'll be running the disk check on the new drive tonight and doing the copy and expand tomorrow. A big thanks to Comer and I'll donate just as soon as you give us Supersize :p J/k, donation coming your way!
     
  8. Oct 28, 2010 #188 of 2843
    comer

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    Hold on a few more days guys, it's done, just need to put it in a nice package for ya ;)
     
  9. Oct 28, 2010 #189 of 2843
    efrsysop

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    NH & MA...
    Woot! Woot! Best Halloween "candy" ever. ~30 more hours of HD!

    I know I speak for everyone here when I say thank you so much for all of your time. Please know that it is greatly appreciated.

    -Spencer
     
  10. Oct 28, 2010 #190 of 2843
    efrsysop

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    NH & MA...
    Btw- Let me know if I can help out at all with my Premiere XL whether its making an image, or testing something I'm happy to help. :eek:

    -Spence
     
  11. Oct 29, 2010 #191 of 2843
    EricM

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    Just upped my two Tivo HDs to 237H (1.5TB drives). I didn't go as smoothly as I expected. Here is what happened:
    -Took original 160GB drive with firmware 9.3 and copied to previously in-use 1.5TB (180 Hrs at that point) with jmfs
    -Expanded with jmfs
    -Booted THD with 1.5TB drive
    -THD got stuck in a loop of powering up for 2 min, "almost there" screen for a few seconds then GSOD for a few seconds and reboot. I let it run like that for 35 minutes, after which I pulled the plug, plugged back in and it did it again for 20 minutes. After that I turned off and decided to try something else. Was the swap too small for 1.5TB with GSOD? Maybe, but I couldn't find how to adjust it using jmfs.
    -Used Winmfs to fix swap, fix kernel, both options 1 and 2 did not solve the GSOD loop. Used Winmfs to "erase format" on 1.5TB drive.
    -Took original 160GB drive with firmware 9.3 and copied to previously in-use-but-now-erased 1.5TB with jmfs
    -Expanded with jmfs
    -Booted THD, same GSOD loop.
    I noted that trying to set supersize bit on the 1.5TB drive in that state caused WinMFS to crash.

    Here is what worked (this was close to 24Hrs after first using jmfs :) )
    -Took original 160GB drive with firmware 9.3 and copied to previously in-use 1.5TB with jmfs
    -Did NOT expand with JMFS
    -Booted THD on 1.5TB drive. Boot OK, 20 Hours available which was expected.
    -Let it download and install firmware 11j
    -Set Supersize bit on 1.5TB with WinMFS
    -Expand 1.5TB with JMFS
    -Boot THD on 1.5TB. Boot OK, 237 Hours available. Yay! :up:
    -Clear&Erase everything, to make sure the THD is still happy afterwards
    -Tivo booted in guided setup and has been happy ever since.

    I repeated the process on my second THD, whose original drive had an even earlier firmware (8.x , I think it was 8.1) without any issue. 237 Hours as well.

    I am mentionning this purely to bring more data to this thread. My solution is probably heavy handed but worked for me and might help others in the same situation. Another thing I realized later is that the first TiVo original drive (9.3) had been pulled in "standby" state. This might have caused/contributed to the GSOD problem.

    I'd like to finish by thanking Comer for this tool, overall I'm very happy though I need to catch up on some sleep tonight ;)
     
  12. Oct 29, 2010 #192 of 2843
    richsadams

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    Thanks very much for that...and your perseverance! I know how heart-sinking a bad boot-up can feel! :eek:

    I may have read through all of your trials and tribulations a little too quickly, but it sounds as if the key was upgrading to the latest version of TiVo's software? If so, would it make sense to slip the OEM drive back in, force a connection get the update and then perform the upgrade? That would be a pretty simple bit of advice to add to the instructions. Or am I missing something? (Not unusual BTW ;) )

    Thanks again and TIA for confirming or some clarification. :up:
     
  13. Oct 29, 2010 #193 of 2843
    EricM

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    Well, I'm not 100% sure if it's the firmware, the standby state or something else (for instance combination situation where a newer firmware handles too small a swap size more gracefully?). Yes, it could be the firmware. To get more pointers, it would help to know which FW retiredqwest had on his original drive.
    If it is indeed the firmware, yes, updating the original drive first would be a quicker solution, but I started the whole thing with the self-assigned requirement that I would not modify my original drive ;)
    And as far as the bad bootup, I wasn't too worried because I had the original drive and the shows were backed up on the other TiVo. My attitude was more like "cool, looks like I'm gonna learn something new today" :)
     
  14. Oct 29, 2010 #194 of 2843
    vurbano

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    I am currently copying the stock Premiere drive to a 1TB WD10EVDS AV-GP drive. I will then expand it and put it back in the premeire. What are my odds of success?
     
  15. Oct 29, 2010 #195 of 2843
    aparikh

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    Hello,

    Just joined this site and I am impressed with the amount of information... Sorry if this has been answered but I will ask just to make sure I am correct with this what I think I am reading...

    I have 2 TiVO HDs that came with the 160GB drives which I upgraded to 750GB awhile back with WinMFS.

    Am I correct in that it seems that I can now drop in a 2TB using Comer's methods? I also see that DVR_Dude is also selling the 2TB for the THD160 at a fair price...

    Also, does it matter if I get the WD 2TB that isn't specifically listed as AV?

    Thanks all,
     
  16. Oct 29, 2010 #196 of 2843
    comer

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    If you are already copying your drive, then you have everything setup and recognized correctly. 100% :up::D
     
  17. Oct 29, 2010 #197 of 2843
    comer

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    retiredqwest answered the first question just a few posts above
    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=8205708#post8205708. As for the second - check the sister thread here. Especially posts by richsadams toward the end of the thread are most relevant.
     
  18. Oct 29, 2010 #198 of 2843
    vurbano

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    installed in tivo and booting up. Please work........
     
  19. Oct 29, 2010 #199 of 2843
    vurbano

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    yeah baby!!!!!!!!!

    Comer you da man!
    I bought a $399 dollar 32" HDTV from BB for my sons room with a $99 dollar brand new Premiere promotion + $75 dollar 1TB AV-GP + comer software = a $500 dollar XL unit for $175 bucks
     
  20. Oct 29, 2010 #200 of 2843
    retiredqwest

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    I have 11.j on the stock THD. I think it had just been downloaded. As for your tribulations...... I have my doubts it had anything to do with the firmware. That being said, I would have made sure the stock drive was up to date before copying it. As that would tell me the stock drive was in working order.

    AND I also use a spare computer so the drives are directly connected to SATA ports. It took about an hour and a half to copy the stock drive.

    I did this 4 times to various drive sizes without one glitch. Either I'm an exceptionally talented computerist.... or just plain a$$ lucky..... probably the latter.

    And if you notice my sig..... I upgraded my stock premiere yesterday first try.

    Scotty
     

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