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Premier OTA Tuner question

Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by MacBrian, Apr 16, 2012.

  1. P42

    P42 New Member

    Jan 7, 2003
  2. compnurd

    compnurd Active Member

    Oct 6, 2011
    I have the ClearStream 2 you can have for 50 bucks shipped. I was using it to pick up locals here in Pittsburgh about 25 miles away with great results. Planning to get a P4 soon so i dropped OTA.

    Let me know if you are interested. I have great reviews on ebay and dslreports
  3. ScottP461

    ScottP461 Member

    Sep 3, 2005
    I thought that I'd add to this discussion since I've had problems ever since the reallocation of digital channels after the analog signal shutdown in 2009.
    Here in LA, ALL channels were UHF before the shutdown, but 7, 9, 11 and 13 were moved to their ACTUAL digital channel numbers afterwards (High VHF).

    Since their introduction, I was using 2 DirecTV HR10-250's as OTA HD recorders. I had chosen the Winegard Squareshooter as my antenna because it is small and unobtrusive (and my home owners association has rules about such things!) It worked great, every channel I care about came in fine before June of 2009, but after analog went away 2 channels were giving me fits! Channels 11 and 13 were both below the signal quality level that results in a stable glitch free picture. (Oddly, channels 7 and 9 both have VERY strong and stable signals) On other ATSC tuners (in my Sony TV's and DirecTV HR20 DVR's), the signals on 11 and 13 also register as weaker, but are in the OK range; the Sony TV's NEVER break up and the HR20's very rarely do on those channels.

    I'm about 20 miles from the transmitter farm on Mt. Wilson, but a hill (maybe 500' high) blocks my line of sight about 1 mile from my location. Looking at TV signal coverage maps, I'm just on the edge of a reception dead zone! I decided, since both channels are on the brink of being OK and the Squareshooter is not a good High VHF antenna, to try other antenna solutions. I tried the combination of the Clearstream 4 (UHF) and 5 (High VHF) and also the RCA ANT751R. Both set ups were DISASTERS on the HR10's!!! EVERY signal turned to mush; nothing would lock! Interestingly, on the Sony TV's and the HR20's ATSC tuners, both new antenna set ups delivered the expected improvements in signal quality! My conclusion, the HR10's ATSC tuners SUCK at multipath interference.

    Fast forward to "It's time to replace the HR10's"! I decide on the Premiere XL and assumed that nearly a decade later that TiVo would have addressed the multipath reception issue. Well, we ALL know about what happens when we assume things! I went through setting up the Clearstream 4 & 5 antennas again and, much to my surprise, ALL the signals on the XL's tuners turned to garbage! Not as bad, mind you, as the HR10's (at least there was a digital MESS to look at!) I also tried the RCA again, same issues! So, AFTER this, I do some checking and find that people are complaining about the Premiere's ATSC tuner problems with handling multipath!

    So, to make a long story short (too late!), you might want to try the Winegard Squareshooter, it's the ONLY antenna that has (mostly) worked for me. Ironically, it was the first antenna I tried long ago. As it turns out, it is VERY directional and has an excellent front to back ratio. It was designed specifically to deal well with multipath and, as such, works quite well with the Premiere!
  4. S3-2501

    S3-2501 New Member

    Jun 2, 2007
    I use a squareshooter to feed my OLED S3. Since the Squareshooter isn't very good at VHF reception, I have it paired to a set of rabbit ears connected to the VHF input of an old-style Channelmaster 7777 preamp. This setup works extremely well with my S3, but as I described in this very long post and my follow-up post here a Premiere hooked up to this same setup couldn't cope with the copious dynamic multipath at my location. The Squareshooter is a really nice antenna, but don't expect it to overcome the poor multipath handling of the Premiere if you have significant dynamic multipath reflections in your environment.
  5. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

    Jan 31, 2002
    The square shooter works fine with upper VHF. The local ABC and CBS stations in the DC area switched back to VHF with the analog cutoff. The signal isnt as good when the were on VHF but my square shooters pick them up fine. I have two square shooters and use a joiner to combine all frequencies from both of them. They have worked great for the 8+ years I've had them up.

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