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Pre-Sale Questions - New CableCutter

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by KenH999, Mar 6, 2017.

  1. Bigg

    Bigg On the fence to being a cord-cutter.

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    You're going to love the OTA and Roku Ultra! Nice, clear local TV plus amazing 4k Amazon, Netflix, etc, etc.
     
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  2. T Man

    T Man New Member

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    Just went through the same thing (but purchased a Bolt and added All-In just in case I felt the itch to go back to cable). While you can wait for a deal, every day you wait is money you're sending to TWC. I would also invest in a proper antenna. I was lucky that my previous owner left a large one in the attic
     
  3. KenH999

    KenH999 New Member

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    Received Roku Ultra a few days ago and signed up for Sling Blue. I'm familiarizing with it and setting up various apps. Also installed Plex to use it for some downloaded vids.

    We're in the ~30 mile range for local broadcast channels. Already have an interior antenna that gets decent reception on the TV. I've seen some posts that said reception signal may be less direct to the Tivo vs. TV so will have to see how that turns out. If needed will get a pre-amp'd model. Also tried a cheaper interior antenna on the bedroom TV and it works perfectly. For now we'll get by w/broadcast channels only on that TV. Frankly, it only gets about 30-45 mins viewing a night until we fall asleep and the sleep timer turns it off.

    As mentioned earlier I am waiting on the impending TWC-Spectrum migration in my area of SC (Summerville-Charleston) to make the full TV cut and over to a Spectrum internet only service. We're currently TWC Extreme @ 30/5 and Spectrum's base internet is 60/5 (?) which should suffice for us. Was told twice it happens sometime this month. Interestingly, this morning TWC webpages began re-directing (albeit w/very slow or partial page loads and frequent errors) to Spectrum pages so apparently it's close. Hopefully will make the cut and switch within the next week.
     
  4. bonscott87

    bonscott87 Done.

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    So I went thru similar over a year ago, got a Bolt and thought that would be my "one box" as it did Netflix, Amazon and Hulu. Just about a year ago Sling TV became available nationwide and I went with their free Roku deal. Did the Spectrum Stream thing as someone above noted and it's not a bad service but the problem I had was reliability, it was out a lot. Been with PS Vue now for over 6 months and pretty happy with it (despite the bad UI on the Roku) and I'll give both YouTube and Hulu's live TV attempts a spin once available.

    I cancelled the Bolt in December just before they would charge me after the free year because I hadn't used it for months. Honestly, Roku does everything I need, there are just so many apps. And you already have the big one that free'd me from Tivo...Plex. There is a section of Plex called "channels" and in there you can add ABC, NBC, The CW, etc. It allows you to stream whatever the networks post on their web site. Viola, no antenna needed.

    We stream 100% now with the following:
    1) Plex for OTA networks
    2) Netflix and Amazon. Put in any others you would be interested in such as HBO Now, Hulu, etc.
    3) PS Vue for a few basic "cable" channels. The key here is you can use your Vue credentials to log into the apps these channels have. Any OTT service I get must allow app logins.
    4) App logins. Actually watch more this way then even via PS Vue. Want to watch Monday Night Football? ESPN app. Want to watch some Cat from Hell? Animal Planet app. And so on. Many apps are also free...Super Bowl was completely free streamed via the Fox Sports App. Crackle is free. TONS of free content out there to be had.
    5) Still have our OTA antenna connected directly to the TV but haven't actually used it for anything in over 6 months. But I like that it's there just in case for something live like a Tornado or something.
    6) Want to rent a PPV movie? Vudu, Amazon, Google Play. Plenty of options there. Want to buy a digital movie? Same. Vudu supports Ultraviolet and I believe Disney Anywhere as well.
    7) Only thing we actually pay for is Netflix ($9.99...which we had anyway), Amazon (which we have anyway with Prime for shipping) and PS Vue ($30). So basically $40 a month and just Roku as the one box to rule them all. Save a ton of money, even more if I decided I didn't need Vue or similar service.

    Hope my rambling helps or gives some more things to think about.
     
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  5. KenH999

    KenH999 New Member

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    Vue creds will allow me to login to channels' apps such as CNN, Discovery, Fox, USA Now, and others that normally require a login from their approved CATV partner (TV provider account)?
     
  6. mdavej

    mdavej Well-Known Member

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    In most cases, yes. I haven't checked those specific ones.
     
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  7. bonscott87

    bonscott87 Done.

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    Yes to all of those. Vue is near 100% on app logins for the channels you get. TV Anywhere apps are really nice as a VOD service directly from the networks (although with ads sometimes).

    Here is copied from the PS Vue Reddit. It may be a bit out of date but gives a good idea.

    Best thing about any of these services? No commitment. Try it for 30 days, hate it just cancel.

    Can I use my PlayStation™Vue account to authenticate with "TV Everywhere" applications?
    Absolutely. While these apps and sites are completely separate from PlayStation™Vue, they can be used at no additional cost with your PlayStation™Vue subscription.

    To authenticate and gain access, you will need a subscription to a PlayStation™Vue package that includes the channel whose content you are looking to access.

    You can access the below list of apps with your PlayStation™Network credentials. When you download each app, simply look for the PlayStation™Vue logo or drop down option on the app’s log-in screen. Once at the log-in screen, type in your credentials and you’re in. Most apps can be downloaded from Google Play and the iTunes store.

    • AdultSwim, ABC, AMC, Bravo Now, BTN2GO, CartoonNetwork, CNBC, CNN, Cooking Channel, Discovery GO, WATCH Disney Channel, WATCH Disney Jr., WATCH Disney XD, DIY Watch, E! Now, WATCH ESPN, Esquire TV Now, Food Network, Fox, FOX Business Channel, FOX News Channel, FOX Sports GO, Freeform GO, Fusion Live, FX Now, Golf Channel, HGTV, WatchIFC.com, MSNBC, National Geographic, NBC News, NBC Sports Live Extra, NBC Universo, NCAA March Madness, WATCH One World Sports, Oxygen Now, SHOWTIME Anytime, Sprout, Sundance, SyFy Now, TBS – WATCH TBS, Telemundo, TNT – WATCH TNT, Travel Channel – Watch Travel Channel, truTV – Watch truTV, Turner Classic Movies – WATCH TCM, TV Land, USA NOW, WETV
     
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  8. bonscott87

    bonscott87 Done.

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    Just to note that SlingTV and DirecTV Now also allow app logins but not very many. When I was with SlingTV, ESPN was the only one but I think they have a few more now. One big knock on DirecTV Now was that it has so few TV Anywhere logins. They have a few more now too but for whatever reason Sony was the only one so far to get near universal TV Anywhere access.
     
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  9. KenH999

    KenH999 New Member

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    My Sling 7-day free trial expires tommorow (Sun.) afternoon. Unless the trial period limits the TV Anywhere logins I've found that several of our fav. channels require it. Considering PS Vue takes care of that issue, covers the same channels we want with the $30 pkg, AND adds Cloud DVR, Vue is definitely worth a try.

    5 of our fav. shows are on CBS and we currently DVR them all. Apparently CBS gives away nothing for streaming so if we forgo the Tivo w/OTA DVR the CBS All Access is required at $6 or $10/mo.

    I'll sign up for Vue trial shortly and give it a try.
     
  10. BillyClyde

    BillyClyde New Member

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    I've tried them all and Vue is definitely the best. I just listened to the HT Guys podcast on streaming services and they got so much info and facts wrong, especially with Vue.
     
  11. bonscott87

    bonscott87 Done.

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    Couple options for you here with CBS that might work for you:
    1) If CBS is available in your market on Vue (like it is for me) then you'll have both CBS Live TV with ability to DVR *and* VOD of older episodes.
    2) Plex...streams whatever is on the CBS website which is basically their VOD selections they make available on every service.

    I've alluded to it before but the UI for Vue on the Roku is pretty basic, but it does the job (for me anyway). The UI is much more advanced on the PS4 or FireTV. But that's why a trial is good, only you can decide what's good for you.
     
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  12. mobilelawyer

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    The main thing you'll give up if you cut the cord is the convenience of easily recording any show on cable that is included in your subscription. You will lose that ability with streaming services - any of them.

    You can keep your TiVo recording for as long as you desire and view it as often as you desire -- at least until your TiVo dies. And, you have easy access to the program grid to find shows you want to record. Of course, it you go OTA on TiVo, you can at least retain the convenience of recording on broadcast channels, but there is no sanctioned way to record streamed programming, other than by subscribing to Playon, which does work on the streaming services like Netflix and Hulu, and allows you to record the stream using their software under license from the provider, and the software saves an mp4 copy of the program. The file is of generally good quality, but not as good as a broadcast or cable program recorded on your TiVo. And I am not aware of a way to use Playon to record live programming.

    I tried the Playstation service which offers the ability to store shows you want to watch later on the cloud. But they are only retained for a month, and, after that, you lose access.

    I like to record occasional live sporting events which I want to retain indefinitely. I would cut the cord tomorrow, if this ability were unimportant to me. Right now, my cable package is only about $15 to $20 per month more expensive than a streaming subscription would be, and the convenience of recording is too important to me to give up without some way to replace the recording flexibility.
     
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  13. bonscott87

    bonscott87 Done.

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    Yep, just depends on how you watch your media. I've gotten to the point that I just don't care. Heck, some weeks we might only turn the TV on once. For example we got too far behind on the Flash/Arrow/Legends shows to the point where ones we hadn't watched were no longer available streaming. Oh well, we'll just wait until the whole seasons hit Netflix in June and then binge them like the we do with the Amazon and Netflix shows anyway. :)
     
  14. BillyClyde

    BillyClyde New Member

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    That isn't quite correct. I just cancelled Vue myself because I was lured back with a great deal from my cable co. You can however easily and conveniently record any show on Vue. In fact to me it seemed better because I had no limit on the number of shows I could record simultaneously or otherwise, unlike a tivo that's limited to the number of tuners you have.

    The only limit to this is that it's only kept for 28 days, as you mention later in your post. In all actuality though, I had a lot of shows recorded that never did fall off after 28 days. Some even from the beginning when I started on Vue.
     
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