I just read this and believe you as it makes perfect sense. I'd need to buy more and complicate my life for a crappy, slow process, The BulkTV person, who you'd assume knows their ****, says, "If you would like to purchase a Tivo then you will be able to set it up with Zap2it and you would be able to record programming then. The site for zap2it is www.zap2it.com. You will need to provide the zip code and you will see the property in a list of properties. Once you pick that then you will be able to set up your Tivo to provide you a guide for your television and it will allow you to record programming also. " *snap*. Easy as pie, right? No mention if the internet is needed, no mention of cables or boxes. Just pick and viola! You're all set. Y'all know more about TiVo than they do. It seems they are leading customers down the wrong road.