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Potential new TiVo buyer, I have Moca questions

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by FredT, Sep 26, 2013.

  1. socrplyr

    socrplyr Active Member

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    Nevermind. Found the reference.
     
  2. larrs

    larrs Movie Fan-Addict

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    So, I can connect one Roamio (or Premiere 4 XL/Elite) to my network via Ethernet and share that connection to all other Roamios/Premiere 4 XL/Elites if they all go through the same coax feed from outside, correct?

    Is there any issue if the coax splitter has an amp added to it by the cableco?
     
  3. TivoQueensDad

    TivoQueensDad New Member

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    As long as your ethernet network is connected to a Moca adapter somewhere, they should all be able to reach each other.

    I'm not sure about the amp. It's not recommended (see below)



    http://support.tivo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2412

    Coax Splitter

    This small piece of equipment splits one coax input to two or more outputs. In most setups, you only need a splitter that provides two outputs; however, some setups might require more outputs.

    In most cases, you (not your cable provider) will be responsible for providing your MoCA equipment. The TiVo store has most of the equipment you need for MoCA networking.

    Will a signal amplifier interfere with my MoCA network?

    We do not recommend using a signal amplifier on a MoCA network. Amplifiers can block communication between devices and cause them to disappear from the network.
     
  4. shrike4242

    shrike4242 Member

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    My cable company, Charter, has a 8-way amplified splitter at the feed into my house, with each room in the house feeding off of that amplified splitter. Between the Charter feed and the amplifier, I have a MoCA privacy filter (https://www.tivo.com/shop/detail/moca-poe , though not this specific one) to keep the MoCA data inside of my home coax wiring.

    The Premiere XL4 that I have has a two-way split at the coax feed at the wall, one to the Tivo and one to the tuning adapter. The three Premiere XL units and the one S3 unit I have have a three-way split at the coax feed, one to the MoCA adapter, one to the Tivo and one to the tuning adapter.

    There's one additional MoCA adapter I have where my cable modem is located, with a three-way splitter. One feed goes to my cable modem, one goes to my VoIP modem and one goes to the MoCA adapter with the MoCA adapter connected to my router via Ethernet.

    It all works great and I've not had any issues in the multiple years it's all been in operation.
     
  5. BigJimOutlaw

    BigJimOutlaw Active Member

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    If the amp is correctly located at the cable's point of entry, it shouldn't be a problem.

    If it's located further down one of the coax lines, ideally it should be moved, but if that's not doable it needs to be able to pass-through *at least* 1000 MHz bi-directionally.
     
  6. gedeyenite

    gedeyenite Murph

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    I have a TiVo Premiere 2x Tuner that DOES NOT have the built in MoCA. It currently connects to the Internet via the TiVo WiFi adapter.

    I get all my TV from HD OTA (Over The Air) so I do not have COAX TV coming into my house, therefore, no Cable Modem.

    I get my Internet through a DSL connection. That Modem does not have a COAX port on it.

    I have a new TiVo Mini that has access to a COAX port.

    The Premiere is near a COAX port but not an Ethernet Port.

    Question: Where do I (can I) add a MoCA to the mix to get the Premeire to stream to the Mini?

    Thanks so much.

    (Here is the schematic for my current setup): http://postimg.org/image/wb5kem04d/
     
  7. FredT

    FredT New Member

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    Nice diagram! It looks to me like you'd need to add two Moca adapters, one where the Premiere is located and the other near your router (I assume a coax outlet is available there as well, yes?). Then it's a matter of setting up a Moca network. Your Premiere would then access the Internet through Moca rather than WiFi. That's pretty much my setup, but I have a Roamio with built-in Moca, so only needed the Moca adapter at the router. There is a Moca FAQ on the TiVo site that gives step-by-step instructions for setting up the network.
     
  8. midas

    midas I heard that

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    This seems like a good place to ask.

    I'm thinking of moving into an apartment. I know Comcast services the building. It's new construction and I assume there is a cable outlet in every room. Does that mean that I could just get a Roamio and a mini and hook them both up to the cable outlets and they would be connected? Or do I need a separate coax run to connect them?
     
  9. FredT

    FredT New Member

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    Yes, just hook them up and that's all you need. No additional coax required.
     
  10. midas

    midas I heard that

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    Thank you.
     
  11. midson

    midson New Member

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    OK - so I have a Roamio Plus and Mini, and both COAX and CAT5 at each location. I connect the CAT5 to the Plus for internet and the COAX to both the Plus and mini, and they will communicate thru Moca on the COAX, is that correct? Will I also need to connect the CAT5 to the Mini, or will it get everything it needs thru Moca? Any benefit to connecting the Mini to CAT5? Thanks.
     
  12. BigJimOutlaw

    BigJimOutlaw Active Member

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    Correct. Connect coax and cat5 to the Plus, select "use this DVR to create a moca network" in the network settings. Connect coax to the Mini. That's all it needs.

    The theoretical benefit of using cat5 with the Mini instead is that cat5 is faster than moca, but moca is more than fast enough to stream video too. Also, unless you have a POE filter installed, cat5 would be more secure. Since you have both options at the Mini's location, the choice is really all yours.
     
  13. gedeyenite

    gedeyenite Murph

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    Good. I was hoping that was the case. I had been informed elsewhere that you had to have a 4x tuner, e.g., Roamio, Premiere, etc. glad to read a Premiere 2x can work.
     
  14. BigJimOutlaw

    BigJimOutlaw Active Member

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    You do need a Tivo with 4 or more tuners for the Mini to work.
     
  15. Woodburner

    Woodburner New Member

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    Hello this is my first post so sorry if a similar question has been asked. My cable modem router is upstairs in one room and my Tivo Roamio plus is downstairs in another room and the Mini is upstairs in another room. So how many Moca adapters will I need?
     
  16. TivoQueensDad

    TivoQueensDad New Member

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    You'll only need 1 adapter.

    Cable modem - hook up to MOCA adapter
    Tivo Roamio - built in MOCA adapter
    Tivo Mini - built in MOCA adapter
     

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