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Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by PHeadland, Oct 19, 2013.

  1. Oct 24, 2013 #81 of 274
    crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    And those of you not on the platform long- TiVo has *NEVER* had pause ads with a black background (not that I ever recall) or anywhere near that large. And with a ONE LINE text ad plus the bar, they are managing to obscure 25% of the vertical screen across 66% of the horizontal screen.

    The delete ad doesn't matter much, since you very rarely need to see what is behind it, and it only happens once per program.

    STOP THIS CRAP, TiVo Inc....
     
  2. Oct 24, 2013 #82 of 274
    moyekj

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    There's at least 1-2 second delay added when you get to end of a show and have to wait extra for the ad to populate before you get the keep or delete menu to appear and be functional. Initially there's no ad, then the menu text gets pushed up to make room for the ad. I noticed and was irritated by the delay immediately especially since Roamio is otherwise usually so much more responsive.
    The pause ads themselves I can deal with since I always enable SPSPS 1st thing following a reboot, but even those cause a slight delay in the pausing and unpausing.
     
  3. Oct 24, 2013 #83 of 274
    aaronwt

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    I haven't seen any ads with a black background. They have all been dark Blue. Unless I'm just mis-remembering. When I saw the pic someone posted my first thought was that something was wrong with it because I thought the background matched everything else with the Roamio which was dark Blue.
     
  4. Oct 24, 2013 #84 of 274
    davezatz

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    All my Roamio pause menu ads have been Carbonite on the larger black background... different than Premiere. Wonder how long Mini will remain immune. :/
     
  5. Oct 24, 2013 #85 of 274
    jrtroo

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    Thanks. The ones on the premiere and older boxes were like billboards- you knew it was there but never really saw it. This actually is different, upon first review it seems much harder to ignore, at least initially.

    Is this what is intended? Or is the larger box with all of that empty space a bug to be squashed?
     
  6. Oct 24, 2013 #86 of 274
    Grakthis

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    It's not a matter of cheap. I would be paying 15-20 for NOTHING. So, no, I am not willing to burn $20 in a fire for no reason.

    No, pop-up ads require you to remove them. the TiVo ads do not. The Amazon ads show up on the unlock screen. Equivalent to the pause screen on the TiVo.

    "existed when we bought the product" is irrelevant to products that are updated. Out of the home streaming didn't exist when some people bought their Roamios. Would TiVo be justified in charging for that feature now, or would you be enraged about that?

    What we are justified in being 'annoyed' about is not relevant to the conversation. I am annoyed by TV ads.

    It is the companies job to sell you a product, that you buy, and then continue to make a profit off of that product.

    Congrats, TiVo did that. You bought it. Now they are selling ads. Sounds like your mission parameters were accomplished. So stop being mad at them for doing exactly what you think they are supposed to do.
     
  7. Oct 24, 2013 #87 of 274
    jmpage2

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    I'm not the only one mad at them. If enough of us get annoyed with them and the word gets around, it could affect their sales and outweigh whatever pittance they are getting for selling an obnoxious advertisement to Carbonite.... or people could just quietly accept every ad change until you have large full screen ads on every screen.... because that's sort of the ultimate goal in marketing, to force eye-balls to look at adds every so many minutes.
     
  8. Oct 24, 2013 #88 of 274
    LoadStar

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    Again, TiVo has been doing ads - including pop-up ads - for years, including the entire duration of the Roamio product line that this forum is discussing. You cannot accurately state that the ads "did not exist when [you] bought the product." They may not have yet run an ad on the Roamio product line - but that is not the same thing as what you stated.
     
  9. Oct 24, 2013 #89 of 274
    davezatz

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    Word got around - the Associated Press covered it via dozens of pubs in 2009 (and quote me in the story). TiVo obviously didn't care, despite a continued decline in retail subscribers. Several years later, customers (existing and potential) are probably more tolerant and expectant of these things and Roamio is way better than the Premiere. So I imagine they'll carry on. It is what it is. We gotta suck it up, or move on.
     
  10. Oct 24, 2013 #90 of 274
    aaronwt

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    I think they will lose more sales by not having Android streaming support than having some ads.
     
  11. Oct 24, 2013 #91 of 274
    SlappyMcgee

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    On my Tivo HD I have always had these little ads on the pause menu, and at the bottom the list when I bring up the Tivo menu. It just looks like a menu selection on the pause screen.
     
  12. Oct 24, 2013 #92 of 274
    DCIFRTHS

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    I do a pause and then right arrow to advance a frame. It annoys me every time I hit pause as I am usually pausing because I want to get a better look at what's on screen as opposed to pausing and walking away.
     
  13. Oct 24, 2013 #93 of 274
    DCIFRTHS

    DCIFRTHS I dumped SDV / cable

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    I wouldn't even consider a Kindle that has the ads. For me, it's worth the extra cash to get rid of them. Different strokes...
     
  14. Oct 24, 2013 #94 of 274
    Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    I bought one and don't even notice it. The ad only shows on the main screen and a single swipe of your finger gets rid of it. It does not intrude on the UI anywhere else. Plus the cool thing is you can buy the ad supported one and if you decide later that you don't like the ads you can simply pay $20 and they're gone forever.

    I wish TiVo would offer an option like that. I'd pay an extra $20 to opt-out of the ads.
     
  15. Oct 24, 2013 #95 of 274
    zalusky

    zalusky Active Member TCF Club

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    If they are going to do this they should offer a second tier no AD model.

    Many people want the cheap and many people want the first class model.
    You can do that for apps on your phone!
     
  16. Oct 24, 2013 #96 of 274
    DCIFRTHS

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    Sounds like the ads on the Kindle are much less intrusive. I have to admit that I would opt for the no ads version though :)

    I would also pay TiVo a fee to kill the ads. Are you listening TiVo?
     
  17. Oct 24, 2013 #97 of 274
    aaronwt

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    The ADs on the kindle Fire have saved me more money than it would have cost to pay to remove the ads.
     
  18. Oct 24, 2013 #98 of 274
    davezatz

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    The Kindle ads are way, way better than the dead author screensavers. ;)
     
  19. Oct 24, 2013 #99 of 274
    Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Mine has been in Air Plane mode since the day I got it and downloaded the book I was reading, so it hasn't actually downloaded an ad yet. Just has a little banner that says please connect to wifi to download the latest offers.
     
  20. DCIFRTHS

    DCIFRTHS I dumped SDV / cable

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    As I have mentioned before, to each his own. In my case, it's worth the cost to get rid of them.
     

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