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Poll for TiVo's next line of DVRs

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by buscuitboy, Apr 24, 2013.

What will Tivo's next line of DVRs be like

Poll closed Mar 17, 2014.
  1. updated 4-tuner cable only model

    10 vote(s)
    7.5%
  2. 6-tuner digital cable only model

    61 vote(s)
    45.5%
  3. 6-tuner hybrid DVR (cable & OTA support)

    33 vote(s)
    24.6%
  4. 4-tuner DVR (cable & OTA support)

    27 vote(s)
    20.1%
  5. 7 (or more) tuners of some kind

    3 vote(s)
    2.2%
  1. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    If all the other speculation is wrong this is the one thing that will happen. The Mini uses a chip which is much faster then the current Premiere units. The companion chip to the one in the Mini, the one designed for a full blown DVR, is even faster still. I expect the UI to be much snappier in the next gen hardware. In fact if I'm right I might upgrade my Elite to a new unit just for that. Even if all other features are exactly the same.
     
  2. wco81

    wco81 Member

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    When are these next-gen DVRs expected?

    One feature they should look at is place-shifting functionality, with obviously mobile apps.

    Better yet, if the mobile apps. would let you record or cache the content, you wouldn't need the Tivo Stream silliness.
     
  3. CAAvidTivoUser

    CAAvidTivoUser New Member

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    I think a 6 tuner would be great as I receive a ton of channels and cannot watch everything.
     
  4. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    According to the FCC filing they're trying to get them out before the holiday season this year.

    Historically TiVo has released DVRs either in March or September, so I'm guessing they're shooting for September.
     
  5. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    That would be great!! If so i know what my birthday present to myself will be.:D
     
  6. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    As long as they're faster I'm getting one regardless. I love having 4 tuners but the speed of the UI on my Elite is miserable. I don't care if there are any other features, as long as the speed is at least as fast as the Mini I'm buying.
     
  7. innocentfreak

    innocentfreak Active Member

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    I am definitely in for one, but I mainly need to upgrade my mother's house from TiVo HDs so she will get my Elite and a Mini.

    If I didn't need to upgrade, I actually don't know if I would immediately. Don't get me wrong 6 tuners, hopefully more space, and a faster TiVo would be nice, but I don't feel a need to upgrade. I think if I didn't need it now I would probably just wait.
     
  8. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    If our cable system was all digital I'd give my Elite to my Sister, but trying to explain to her why it can't record some channels because they are analog only just creates a support nightmare for me. So I'll likely just sell it to subsidize the cost of the new unit.
     
  9. slowbiscuit

    slowbiscuit FUBAR

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    C'mon it's not that bad. Is it as snappy as it should be? No, but it's by no means a miserable experience for normal DVR functions. It's not tremendously worse than my old HDs with the SDUI. The web apps (expect for Pandora) are pretty bad, I'll grant you.
     
  10. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    It's much worse then the SDUI. There are times when in the search or browse section where it will stall for 5+ seconds before displaying what it should. The basic stuff like My Shows is OK, albeit still slower, but searching and browsing is miserable and the apps are basically unusable.
     
  11. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    +1M. The Mini is a good indication of how the UI responsiveness should be, so much so that I use my Mini as a front end to my Elite. I can't wait to dump my Elite in favor of new hardware. My 2 tuner Premiere I can just about tolerate, but not the Elite. I can understand some people don't have a problem with sluggishness, but it is a pet peeve of mine.
     
  12. slowbiscuit

    slowbiscuit FUBAR

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    Well as I said, for everyday activities like recording/playback, SP/ARWL/ToDo list mgmt etc. it works pretty much the same as the old HD's SDUI. To me that means it's not a miserable experience because that's what I'm using the most. I agree that search can bog but I don't use it that often, nor do I have 100s of SPs or recordings stored on it. And I agree the apps pretty much all suck, speed-wise.

    It's like everything Tivo, you either have a little patience for their code and length of time it takes for anything or you don't. And it probably will get better with new hardware, but it's sad that my less than 1-year old Elite would need a refresh.
     
  13. atmuscarella

    atmuscarella Well-Known Member

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    Well part of the problem is the Elite/P4/P4XL needed a hardware refresh when they were released. Most of the hardware in all Premieres (excluding hard drives) has been around since 2009 or earlier. If the Premiere was only a DVR and the HDUI worked well I might understand waiting 4 years for a refresh but TiVo clearly wanted the Premiere line of DVRs to be "The One Box" solution for people and they have known for years that the Premiere's hardware was not up to the task of providing a good streaming experiences and was only marginally acceptable in providing an HDUI experience. The people who decided to wait this long for a hardware refresh should be fired.
     
  14. innocentfreak

    innocentfreak Active Member

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    I really thought with the Premiere we would see refreshes done more often other than just storage.
     
  15. buscuitboy

    buscuitboy Member

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    WE HAVE A WINNER....sort of.

    With the new TiVo ROAMIO line released today, it looks like poll options #2 & #3 are the correct ones.....

    I thought for sure they wouldn't have an OTA model of any kind, but glad to see I was proven wrong. :p

    Now the real question is whether the dynamic tuning (for minis) is currently present in these series 5 models or if it will be "coming soon". I would have also liked to see a clock on the front display like my old Series 3 (OLED), but that didn't happen. Oh well & its not a deal killer though.

    Welcome aboard ROAMIO!!!! ;)
     
  16. jrtroo

    jrtroo Chill- its just TV

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    Wouldn't that be #2 and #4?
     
  17. buscuitboy

    buscuitboy Member

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    I actually did originally put option #2 & #4, but as you can see, I edited the post cause I was then thinking its maybe 4 digital tuners and then 2 OTA tuners (6 "hybrid" tuners) that can be used together, but maybe not and its one or the other. If this is the case, then I stand corrected and #2 & #4 are the right answers.
     
  18. atmuscarella

    atmuscarella Well-Known Member

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  19. bmgoodman

    bmgoodman Member

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    I just voted. I'm not so good at predictions, but I'm usually able to give a sound post-diction. :cool:
     
  20. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    My only misstep in my predication was I thought all units would have MoCa. I'm kind of shocked that the 4 tuner unit doesn't. Maybe the combo cable/OTA tuners they used wouldn't allow it.

    Although to be fair mine wasn't really a prediction. It was based on a lot of information I'd gathered from spending way to much time on this site. :)
     

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