I know the Mini got pushed and that upset you, but historically TiVo doesn't have that bad a reputation for slipping. The Stream was released on time. The current Premiere was released without anyone even knowing it was coming. The TiVo HD too. The S3 unit was released on time as well. While they have slipped on a few software releases, and the Mini, it's hardly enough to judge it as a given. Also we have in fact gotten clues and rumors "for sure". The FCC filing specifically mentions that they want to have these new units to market by the holiday season this year. We also got information from someone with an inside source, who was right about the Mini, that there would be a 6 tuner unit coming this fall before the FCC filing was public. So there are some pretty strong clues and rumors that a new unit will be coming this fall. Could it slip? Sure. Is it guaranteed to? No. If it's based on the same platform as the Pace 6 tuner box, which is highly likely, then that means it's been in development for over a year already so the hardware is likely ready to go. They just have to wait for the FCC to approve their request so they can start producing them for retail. The 4 tuner OTA box is still pretty much all conjecture at this point, but I still think it's likely given the hard stance TiVo has taken on the Mini requiring a box with at least 4 tuners.