No, you're not quite getting what I was saying. There are mediocre Super Bowl winning teams and great ones. But I would never say for instance that the Tampa Bay team that won the SB is the greatest ever, but I also wouldn't say that Denver Broncos team that lost 4 straight Super Bowls was the greatest team ever either. The greatest players in Survivor or BB combine winning everything WITH great game play. I can't justify Russell for example as a GREAT player when one aspect of his game was SO flawed he could never win the game. Conversely, Sandra, even though she won two times never really did anything that mind blowing either time to say she was a great player. The best of the players know how to WIN and how to play. Dan on BB, his first time around not only was sneaky and made great moves, but his social game was good enough to get the jury votes. Same with someone like Boston Rob, who put all the aspects together to win his 4th go around.