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Plus or Pro?

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by jbaum, Aug 20, 2013.

  1. Sep 2, 2013 #161 of 191
    aaronwt

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    Then the provider must matter, because I can go through all the HD channels on FiOS and it is easily that lopsided. Which is how I came up with the number in the first place.

    I went through all 145+ HD channels that FiOS has and the percentage was that lopsided.
     
  2. Sep 2, 2013 #162 of 191
    jmpage2

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    Maybe. With something like a TiVo it might not be feasible. If you change anything other than the power supply or hard drive the service will need activation.
     
  3. Sep 2, 2013 #163 of 191
    lessd

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    Best Buy can and will move the activation for you.
     
  4. Sep 2, 2013 #164 of 191
    innocentfreak

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    Well TiVo will with the warranty paperwork. Best Buy doesn't do anything for activation unless something changed.
     
  5. Sep 2, 2013 #165 of 191
    lessd

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    If you have a TiVo Best Buy warrantee for say 3 years and your TiVo goes south in say 2.5 years, and your TiVo has Lifetime on it, Best Buy will repair or give you a new TiVo and have TiVo move the Lifetime under their warrantee deal as a TiVo re-seller.
     
  6. Sep 2, 2013 #166 of 191
    innocentfreak

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    My point was at least in my experience Best Buy only replaced the box. I had to call TiVo to transfer lifetime and fax them the paperwork. Best Buy handled nothing when it came to transferring service. Now maybe it has changed since this was years ago.

    I agree with the fact TiVo will transfer lifetime with a Best Buy warranty, but Best Buy did nothing to help the process other than give me the paperwork.
     
  7. Sep 2, 2013 #167 of 191
    jmpage2

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    I would be interested if BB has the ability to repair them through whatever third party repair service they use. TiVo is not a BD player. Sort of a specialty device.
     
  8. Sep 3, 2013 #168 of 191
    Dan203

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    Fixing the HDD is as simple as just dropping in a new drive now, so I could see them doing those sorts of repairs. Other then that there are really only 3 pieces. The mobo, the power supply and the wifi card. Those are all pretty specialty so they probably wouldn't try to fix those. Unless TiVo has some way for them to easily order up the parts, which they never have in the past.
     
  9. Sep 3, 2013 #169 of 191
    jmpage2

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    With the Roamio a hard drive repair is a simple drop-in but that was never the case before. Certainly i think that TiVo simplified this type of repair as it is probably the most common and very easy to do in the field. This will reduce their costs and enable MSO repairs too.
     
  10. Sep 3, 2013 #170 of 191
    Dan203

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    That's what I'm saying BB may try to do self repairs of TiVos now because the most common problem is the HDD and because it's so easy to replace now. Whereas before their only option was really to replace the whole box.
     
  11. Sep 3, 2013 #171 of 191
    GoHokies!

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    That being the case, it's still possible (in theory) for Best Buy to replace the unit, you call up TiVo and ask to move the Lifetime because of the warranty replacement and for TiVo to check the logs, see that you had an upgraded unit and tell you that they won't move the lifetime.

    No idea if they will do that, but as long as TiVo "holds the keys" with respect to transferring lifetime and has the means to check on the logs for every box out there, it may no matter who does the warranty replacement.
     
  12. Sep 3, 2013 #172 of 191
    uw69

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    I agree that this could happen, but does anyone know of a case where TiVo has actually done this?
     
  13. Sep 3, 2013 #173 of 191
    atmuscarella

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    While I agree anything is possible, TiVo's User Agreement states:

    A Product Lifetime subscription lasts for the lifetime of your TiVo device (not your lifetime), and may not be transferred to another TiVo device (except in cases of warranty repair or replacement under applicable warranty terms).
    In the case of a Best Buy warranty the applicable warranty terms would be Best Buy's terms not TiVos.
     
  14. Sep 3, 2013 #174 of 191
    jmpage2

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    If that was going to happen then tivo would not consider Weaknees an authorized reseller and business partner, but they do.
     
  15. Sep 5, 2013 #175 of 191
    Bigg

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    If a channel is 720p, it will be 720p on all providers. Same for 1080i. The ratio can get skewed, since FIOS has a TON of HD channels, so maybe some of the less-watched ones that aren't on other providers are skewed more towards 1080i. However, among the major channels, they are split pretty evenly.

    Just look at how many are owned by ABC/ESPN or FOX, and you have a LOT of 720p channels. Add in some random ones like History, and you've got a good percentage of 720p channels.
     
  16. Sep 5, 2013 #176 of 191
    headless chicken

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    What is the largest drive that can be manually placed into the Roamio successfully?
     
  17. Sep 5, 2013 #177 of 191
    lessd

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    3Tb at this time.
     
  18. Sep 6, 2013 #178 of 191
    Joe Siegler

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    Some of them are out in the wild now, have we found out that this is truly the case, where Pro vs Plus is just a matter of HD space, and nothing else?
     
  19. Sep 6, 2013 #179 of 191
    jmpage2

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    Well pro says "pro" on the faceplate. Yeah they appear to be identical other than HD capacity.
     
  20. Sep 6, 2013 #180 of 191
    headless chicken

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    Oh yeah, that's totally worth $200 right there
     

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