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Plus or Pro?

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by jbaum, Aug 20, 2013.

  1. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    It's mostly sports channels that like 720p. Things with a lot of fast movement look better progressive then they do interlaced.
     
  2. sirkulation

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    sorry to go off-topic...aaronwt I got your message, please include your email so I can contact you (can't PM yet)
     
  3. TimA

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    Agree, my first Comcast CableCard experience two years ago wasn't smooth, but I had a working CC at the end of the day. My second experience a year ago was excellent. The tech rep was so efficient, I was off the phone in minutes with a working Tivo Premiere XL4.
     
  4. TimA

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    Anyone want to guess how long it will be before we see a 2TB Plus and a 1 or 2TB Base Roamio from Tivo? A 4TB Pro?

    Like most people on this forum, I was shocked at the smallish hard drives in the Base and Plus Roamios. I really think it's a marketing thing and they will upgrade the drives in a year without increasing the price. Tivo can then claim "new and improved" without really doing anything.

    Drive cost and bulk availability probably were also a factor when they spec'd the current Roamios, but the ability to easily upgrade the Roamio later to lure in additional customers is a big consideration.
     
  5. BruceShultes

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    If you want them, you can get them both now.

    WeaKnees.com is already listing larger capacity options for both boxes.
     
  6. Bigg

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    What provider you have is irrelevant. It's based on what the channels are broadcasting.

    CBS/Viacom: 1080i
    NBC/Universal: 1080i
    Fox: 720p
    ABC/ESPN: 720p

    Discovery: 1080i
    History: 720p

    It may be slanted toward 1080i, but there are plenty of both, as many channels are owned by Fox and ABC/ESPN. Some sports channels, including any NBC-owned ones are 1080i. In general, I think 1080i looks better, but you can do amazing things with 720p, like ESPN.

    Content is also converted back and forth a LOT. A lot of stuff is shot at 1080i and broadcast at 720p, and a lot of stuff is shot at 1080p. Not sure if much is shot at 720p.
     
  7. aaronwt

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    Yes the provider doesn't matter much, but if I were to go through all the HD channels the vast majority are 1080i not 720P. Just the Premium channels alone I receive are around forty five at 1080i. Add in the other HD channels and at least 75% of them are in 1080i.

    Even alot of the sports channels are in 1080i. BEIN, MASN, CSN, Golf, NFL, Yes, NBA, Tennis, NHL, Fishing, etc. are in 1080i.
     
  8. bareyb

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    You wanna put your money where your mouth is? I'll bet you a thousand bucks they won't get it working for me the first try. :p

    Is this still the Cablecard Activation Number?: (866) 986-8486
     
  9. astrohip

    astrohip Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    Well, I can't bet on what will happen to you, but my son just went thru activating his Pro (he has an older Series 3 HD-XL, so he knows the cablecard dance) and he said it took less than ten minutes and he was done. Everything works. Premium and all.

    Comcast Houston.
     
  10. bareyb

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    That would make me the happiest man on Earth.
     
  11. Sep 1, 2013 #131 of 191
    Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Me too. I'm dreading the call to get my CableCARD moved over to my Pro on Tuesday. However I did it like 6 months ago for my Sister and it was a total nightmare, so I'm not expecting it to have improved much since then.
     
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    bareyb

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    I did it about a year ago and same here. Took all of one day and part of another. I'm dreading it too... If it goes smoothly I'll jump for joy. Hey. You never know,,, I'm gonna try and think positive. :p
     
  13. Sep 1, 2013 #133 of 191
    Devx

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    I called just last night to migrate a CableCard from my Tivo HD to the Roamio and the entire call was 15 minutes. That time even includes hold time, account verification, reading the Host and Data ID back out to me and holding them on the line to verify premium channels and all tuners.
     
  14. Sep 1, 2013 #134 of 191
    MScottC

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    I'm also a shocked happy Comcast Customer. I called the special Cablecard number, I already had up the pairing screen, read her off the numbers, she read them back to me, and before we could end the conversation, even the premium channels were coming in fine. I'd say no more than 10 minutes. And yes, I have some very not fond memories of this process taking multiple days and phone calls. And that's even recently. They really got their act together on this.

    Cable Card Pairing (887) 405-2298
     
  15. Sep 1, 2013 #135 of 191
    bareyb

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    Maybe it's a Northern California thing. I'm crossing my fingers because it's the one thing holding me back from pulling the trigger on a new box. Not that it's probably going to stop me. I'd dearly love a faster UI. Now that I know it's available the pokey one on my Elite is getting increasingly annoying.
     
  16. Sep 1, 2013 #136 of 191
    bareyb

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    Well it looks like they are in stock at Amazon.com with PRIME. 12 left... Any reason not to buy it from Amazon?
     
  17. Sep 1, 2013 #137 of 191
    overFEDEXed

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    Dan,

    I have a question for you. I do have Cox cable and not Comcast, so that might make a difference.

    Yesterday, I opened up my Plus to upgrade my HD. I pulled my Cablecard out of my Elite, that I sold on eBay, and put it in the Plus. i was preparing to call the Cox CC activation line to swap it over, but everything works!

    Is this just temporary? You think that I will have problems down the road? I must say that the last time I called Cox, it took all of 15 minutes, so it's no big deal to call. I was just wondering why it accepted the card. I've always called in on new and swaps, as channels would be missing initially. (Channels not authorized)

    When I first got my CC's we went through NINE cards, to get three Tivo's up and running. It is much better now.

    Also, I never fired up the Plus with the original drive. I did do the setup without the old Elite CC, then popped it in after.
     
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    I WANT MORE

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    No reason I can think of.
     
  19. Sep 1, 2013 #139 of 191
    innocentfreak

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    If you plan on upgrading yourself, Best Buy might be a better option if you plan on getting the extended warranty. Not sure how TiVo might handle the extended warranty and upgraded drive even if you replace it with the stock drive.
     
  20. Sep 1, 2013 #140 of 191
    Dan203

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    Check the Premium channels. When a card is not paired correctly any channels marked Copy Once will not work. Most cable companies only do this to the premium channels.

    Even if they do work you may want to get it paired anyway because if they ever do enable the protection those channels will suddenly stop working and you may not realize it immediately causing you to lose recordings.
     

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