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Plus or Pro?

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by jbaum, Aug 20, 2013.

  1. Aug 22, 2013 #61 of 191
    Millionaire2K

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    I say get the Pro.

    But that's coming from a guy that owns a 128gb iPad, 64gb iPhone and a 756gb ssd rMacbook pro.

    I like the freedom of extra space.

    PS. - I bought the Pro.
     
  2. Aug 22, 2013 #62 of 191
    jmpage2

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    I have a 2TB Premiere now, and we rarely have more than 60-80 hours of recorded shows on it. Everything else is suggestions. We don't "archive" shows on the TiVo indefinitely... for us it's watch and delete.

    As a result, I ordered the Plus. If, down the line I feel that I need more space, I have no qualms whatsoever about cracking it open and putting a bigger drive in it.

    If I had a house of teenagers, all recording crap non stop, I might look at it a bit differently... as it is, hard to justify an extra $200 for space I more than likely will never utilize.
     
  3. Aug 22, 2013 #63 of 191
    Bigg

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    I'd go nuts if my roommates got that irresponsible. I'm going to do a mass clean-out in September. We're at 36% on an XL4 right now, and just looking at it, it's almost all junk. I'm just too lazy to delete anything for now. I've found that if there's more than 15-20% on an XL4, it's too easy to forget about stuff, and too hard to find stuff to watch. But I got it just in case I didn't feel like cleaning it out for a while, or for stuff like the Olympics where I'll probably record my way from ~15% to mostly full and then end up skimming/deleting most of it.

    The nice part about the big ones is that it takes a while to get up in %. The bad part is that you end up with a lot of stuff you forget about when the drive is that capacious, and you can abuse the concept of a DVR.
     
  4. Aug 22, 2013 #64 of 191
    Dan203

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    My 2TB Elite is sitting at 56% right now. I could probably get it down below 50% if I wanted but if I were to then trade that in for a 1TB Plus I'd be running at near capacity and having to worry about space management all the time. If they offered a 2TB option I would have got that, since it's unlikely I'll ever use all 3TB, but with the only choice being 1TB or 3TB I decided to error on the side of caution and just go for the Pro.
     
  5. Aug 22, 2013 #65 of 191
    GoHokies!

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    Since it now appears that you can just drop in a blank hard drive and it Just Works, looks like the Plus got a lot more popular.

    Hopefully it'll check out and be working properly.

     
  6. Aug 22, 2013 #66 of 191
    jmpage2

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  7. Aug 22, 2013 #67 of 191
    GoHokies!

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    He still hasn't gotten through to a system information screen to make sure that the Tivo actually recognizes the space, and filled the drive with recordings to make sure that it actually works, but it's a heck of a good start!
     
  8. Aug 22, 2013 #68 of 191
    jmpage2

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    The most likely reason that they would have done this is to reduce their serviceability costs. Now, places like Best Buy won't have to RMA the whole box under warranty, they can just pop a new drive in and good to go.
     
  9. Aug 22, 2013 #69 of 191
    Dan203

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    More likely for their MSO partners. Being able to pop in a new drive and redeploy a box makes the TiVo a lot more attractive to MSOs.
     
  10. Aug 22, 2013 #70 of 191
    mattack

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    It's not really much effort at all, since in both cases you have to open the Tivo (I guess Weaknees can install it too, but that obviously means shipping your Tivo there too).

    Especially with jmfs, it's really easy. (Again, we have no idea if these tools will work on Roamio -- I suspect NOT, at least not for > 2 gig drives.. probably not at all.)
     
  11. Aug 22, 2013 #71 of 191
    mattack

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    Do I *wish* it also had OTA? Yes, but I've already got a Premiere 4 that's digital cable only... so I'm not concerned at all.

    I'd probably pay more for a 6 tuner that was also capable of doing OTA, but the 6 tuners are more interesting than the 4 tuners one with OTA. (Though I admit I'm mostly fine with the 4 tuners I already have, I'd rather essentially merge my 2 Tivos into 1 Tivo with 6 tuners.)

    In fact, I'm more disappointed that the new low end Roamio can do cable _OR_ OTA, not both. (Yes, I understand the reason is because it only has one coax input.)
     
  12. Aug 22, 2013 #72 of 191
    innocentfreak

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    No need for jmfs. You just drop it in and TiVo builds the drive.
     
  13. Aug 23, 2013 #73 of 191
    jfh3

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    Uh huh. That's what folks said about the 4 tuner boxes with 2TBs. :rolleyes:

    Hard drive space and tuner capacity is like your salary - no matter what it is, you always want 25% more ... :D
     
  14. Aug 23, 2013 #74 of 191
    mattack

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    That DOES NOT COPY ALL OF YOUR EXISTING SHOWS.

    Plus, has anyone *confirmed* this "Tivo builds the drive" thing? I have heard people theorizing it, but haven't seen anybody confirm it.

    ...and if someone has confirmed it, have you tried putting a 3 TB or 4 TB drive in the low end Roamio?
     
  15. Aug 23, 2013 #75 of 191
    innocentfreak

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    Yes it has been confirmed in the other thread. They used 2TB drives in the Roamio.

    We don't know with this new setup if copying existing shows will work now.
     
  16. Aug 23, 2013 #76 of 191
    Bigg

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    You could copy them to a PC or another TiVo and back again. Except for HBO or anything on TW...
     
  17. Aug 23, 2013 #77 of 191
    Dan203

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    I have had my 2TB close to full, but I don't think I've ever had a conflict with 4 tuners. I think maybe once on it wouldn't let me add padding to a show, but that was it. But now I can pad everything and never worry about it again. :)
     
  18. Aug 24, 2013 #78 of 191
    bobfrank

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    Anyone wanting to maximize the hard disk space might want to wait before deciding on the Plus or the Pro. The HDXL could be upgraded to a larger hard disk than the HD.

    Does anyone know if that's true between the Plus and the Pro?

    Bob
     
  19. Aug 24, 2013 #79 of 191
    jfh3

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    Yes.
     
  20. Aug 24, 2013 #80 of 191
    jmpage2

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    That makes no sense. They appear identical other than included hard disk.
     

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