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Plus or Pro?

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by jbaum, Aug 20, 2013.

  1. Aug 21, 2013 #41 of 191
    waterchange

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    Regarding your to TivoHDs, it appears the drive failures were for the drives that you installed. Not saying Tivo oem drives don't fail but it's hard to complain about Tivo hardware failure when the failure was with your own equipment and not Tivo's.
     
  2. Aug 21, 2013 #42 of 191
    nitsuj

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    I've had problems with my TivoHD and my premiere. The premiere HD died, as did the HD.
     
  3. Aug 21, 2013 #43 of 191
    ScaryMike

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    My xl4 has never been higher than 20% full. That makes me pretty comfortable with getting the plus.
     
  4. Aug 21, 2013 #44 of 191
    Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Between me and my family members (all supported by me) I've only seen 2 internal and 1 external drive fail. The two internals were back in the S2 days. The external was on my wife's S3 and it failed slowly enough that we were able to transfer most of her recordings to mine before it died and needed to be replaced.
     
  5. Aug 21, 2013 #45 of 191
    Fist of Death

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    Premier XL4 is 57% full, Premier XL is 61% full. When you combine both and eliminate duplicates, I'll be about 50% full on my new Roamio Pro. And, if it ever gets really full, I can always add an external drive at some point. I also got the extended warranty because I've had a hard drive failure on one of my old Series 2 TiVo's a few years back, and I don't want to take a chance.
     
  6. Aug 21, 2013 #46 of 191
    alyssa

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    then a plus make sense for you

    I've got and XL premium with a external for 4TB total & run at abt 90-95% full. I do let shows stack up & watch them over the summer, plus I tend to record movies I think my 13 year old would like, in addition my husband watches sports.

    i can't transfer non-major network shows off my tivo due to TW's policy. plus neither my husband or son will put up with getting stuff off my computer which isn't on 24/7.

    i also usually record most every new drama premiere to see if i like it or not. Sometimes it takes me a while to get to watching them.
     
  7. Aug 21, 2013 #47 of 191
    djacobson

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    Is anyone else concerned with missing OTA on the Plus and Pro? Do most get the OTA channels with their digital cable channels anyways? I'm kind of puzzled why TiVo chose to exclude OTA tuning from the Plus and Pro... ???
     
  8. Aug 21, 2013 #48 of 191
    NYHeel

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    That's pretty much how my family works.
     
  9. Aug 21, 2013 #49 of 191
    BigJimOutlaw

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    Overall it's a balance of cost/utility. But yeah, most OTA channels come with the cable packages too. The cableco's are actually mandated to carry many/most of them.

    OTA tuners haven't seen the same kind of advancements QAM tuners have (there's no money in OTA), so from Tivo's perspective adding 6 OTA tuners adds a not-insignificant complexity and cost to the product for a market that isn't very big (those that need 6 ota tuners)... So it's a balance. But it's great that there's finally a 4-tuner OTA model at least though.
     
  10. Aug 21, 2013 #50 of 191
    Beryl

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    That is the main reason I opted for the basic Roamio even though I currently subscribe to cable. (I wish it could also be used with satellite but I'm treating a TiVo like I do most cellphones -- GSM or CDMA).
     
  11. Aug 21, 2013 #51 of 191
    djacobson

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    Thanks. That makes sense. I was weighing the value of OTA versus built-in Stream (Base versus Plus or Pro).
     
  12. Aug 21, 2013 #52 of 191
    BigJimOutlaw

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    The one caveat about the Roamio (if you weren't aware) is that the base model makes you choose between OTA or cable. It doesn't let you do both simultaneously.

    But if that doesn't bother you, you can get a Tivo Stream for free if you order the base model and use 'GROUPER' as a coupon code.

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=507635
     
  13. Aug 21, 2013 #53 of 191
    CMed1

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    The coupon code GROUPER seems to no longer be valid.
     
  14. Aug 22, 2013 #54 of 191
    JohnnyO

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    Very valid point.
     
  15. Aug 22, 2013 #55 of 191
    djacobson

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    Hmm. So long OTA. I'll go with the Pro, and keep my Premiere as an OTA DVR at our vaca place with no cable. It was kind of cool how the older TiVos seamlessly mixed OTA channels in the guide and to-do, but, as you said, OTA isn't really needed where you have cable. OTA was sorta nice, sometimes, because (in my case, I speculate) it seemed TW compressed the bejeezus out of some of the required-to-carry channels; could have sworn I saw better quality on some OTA channels for live ncaa fb games, etc. ...but, I digress. :rolleyes:
     
  16. Aug 22, 2013 #56 of 191
    astrohip

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    I'm going to keep my two S3s running, as backup DVRs for when cable goes out. Not often, but we do get that occasional hurricane or storm. With OTA reception so strong in Houston (think FLAT, baby!), I get a beautiful signal. So I'll leave them running recording the four OTA nets, and get a new PRO for the six tuners. I also have an Elite I'll keep running.
     
  17. Aug 22, 2013 #57 of 191
    jbaum

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    Great feedback. I'm going with the Pro.

    Agree with the feedback that the original TiVo HD haven't died, only issues i've had were S3 power supplies(2x).
     
  18. Aug 22, 2013 #58 of 191
    sbq

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    yeah, but are they using a standard SATA drive, or a drive made specifically for video streaming?
     
  19. Aug 22, 2013 #59 of 191
    vurbano

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    I've always used the WD AV-GP, EVDS type drives or whatever WD calls them now.
     
  20. Aug 22, 2013 #60 of 191
    Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    I broke down and ordered a Pro from Weaknees. No tax, free shipping and $40 coupon sealed it.

    I went back and forth considering the Basic and Plus, but in the end I went for convenience. 3TB should hold me over pretty much forever and with 6 tuners I don't think I'll ever have a conflict again.

    I should be able to sell my lifetime Elite and standalone Stream to cover the hardware cost, so it's really only going to cost me the service fee.
     

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