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Pioneer TiVo Owners Club

Discussion in 'DVD TiVo Units (Archive)' started by robomeister, Jun 29, 2006.

  1. Nov 13, 2006 #81 of 380
    fountain

    fountain New Member

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    I recently purchased a DVR-810 on which the previous owner had a an expanded Tivo service. When he sold it to me he cancelled the service. Now when I try to connect to Tivo all I get instead of the basic channels display is a showcase display. When I go to the DVR system information the display indicates that service is cancelled. At both Pioneer's and Tivo's service departments request I have cleared the entire unit without success in reintalling the Basic channel service. The Showcase is worhtless. Does anyone out there have any advice as to what to do? All other functions on the unit are working fine. Thanks!
     
  2. Nov 14, 2006 #82 of 380
    kwadguy

    kwadguy New Member

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    On my DVR-810H, which I am running with Tivo Basic (aka just enough Tivo to piss you off!), and which has gone through numerous software updates, when I go to the "upgrade to full Tivo" screens it STILL tells me that I can have lifetime for $299. I would have thought that that would have disappeared with the updates...Unless they are still honoring the $299/lifetime deal for the Pioneer/Tivo. If they aren't, then it seems like real bad form to leave that price screen unchanged on the unit.

    (Note that I never activated the free 90 day trial...Perhaps the $299/lifetime disappears if/when you activate the trial)?

    One more thing:

    Is there any way to edit/control chapter marks in programs recorded to DVD? I like to put chapter marks every minute so that when watching on a DVD player, I can just fast forward through the commercials in 1 minute chunks. I don't see any way to control this on the Tivo/Pioneer, however.

    kwad
     
  3. Nov 14, 2006 #83 of 380
    bicker

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    Service updates don't wipe away all vestiges of the original install. For example, each of my TiVos has its own welcome video, and they've never changed despite the fact that they've all received service updates, and two of them now have the same software version.

    Rest assured: TiVo time limited lifetime service offers by public release. You cannot pay $299 to get lifetime on to a Pioneer 810H any longer.

    There is no way to chapterize the DVDs made by the 810H.
     
  4. Nov 14, 2006 #84 of 380
    generaltso

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    You can still get lifetime on a Humax DVD box that's never been activated. But I'm not sure if that applies to a Pioneer.
     
  5. Nov 15, 2006 #85 of 380
    bicker

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    It doesn't.
     
  6. Nov 16, 2006 #86 of 380
    kwadguy

    kwadguy New Member

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    I have some DVD-RW blanks (Memorex, 4x rated) that I can record in my 810H. HOWEVER, after I record them (and finalize them), I can't reuse them. If I put it back in the Tivo/Pioneer, and select "copy programs to DVD" I get an error about how the disc can't be used for that purpose. Huh? I thought the recorder was supposed to be able to reinitialize the disc and reuse it...?

    I haven't tried reinitializing them on a PC yet...but the manual says you can reuse a DVD-RW on the Tivo/Pioneer and says nothing about needing to reinitialize on a PC.

    Kwad
     
  7. Nov 16, 2006 #87 of 380
    robomeister

    robomeister DVD TiVo Expert

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    kwadguy,

    You were able to burn shows using the 4x DVD-RW media in your Pioneer? I have never been able to do that. I can only use 1X or 2X DVD-RW media. Whenever I try to use 4X DVD-RW media to burn some shows, I get the broken disc icon, meaning that the burner cannot use it. Period.

    The manual is very specific on what media will work in the machine. I don't have it in front of me right now, but I remember having to read the fine print on the outside packaging of the DVD-RW media I was looking to buy, to make sure it was compatible.

    I can use 4X DVD-R media, and occasionally 8X DVD-R media. Haven't tried 16X DVD-R media. But only been able to use 1X DVD-RW and 2X DVD-RW media. Never been able to use 4X DVD-RW media.

    The 2X DVD-RW media is rather hard to find now. I was fortunate to find a bunch that will work in my Pioneers. I found some on Ebay, and some in Japan (I used to live there). But this was a while back.
     
  8. Nov 21, 2006 #88 of 380
    evilipoo

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    Allright, count me in the "I-Love-my-Pioneer-DVD-burner-Tivo" club! :) I have an 810H that I purchased 3 years ago and is long out of warranty. But I swear it is still the best thing ever! :D

    Burner has failed and Weaknees won't fix it anymore (a few months back they were willing to). Called Pioneer and got the standard $200 to fix shpeel.

    I would also like to upgrade to a 300gb HD.

    My questions are:

    What to do first? Will Pioneer work on an upgraded unit?

    Has anyone had Pioneer repair their unit? Are you happy with the result?

    Is there an upgraded burner or firmware available (someone mentioned this earlier in the thread, but I did not see an answer).

    What about scrapping plans to fix the burner and just getting a slingbox to transfer the stuff I want to record to my laptop?

    Thanks in advance!
     
  9. Nov 21, 2006 #89 of 380
    generaltso

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    I think that $200 really just gets Pioneer to swap your box for a refurbed unit. If you send them a box with an upgraded drive, there's a good change you won't get that drive back. I would recommend waiting until you have a working unit to upgrade the drive.
     
  10. Dec 3, 2006 #90 of 380
    raardvark

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    I've got the same problem, and a friend with an 810H also does. We're not sure when it started, but we also think it was about the time the upgrade was pushed. My friend called Tivo a couple of times with not luck -- they seem to think he's got his guide set up incorrectly, but his and mine are correct.

    Has anyone come across a solution?

     
  11. Dec 3, 2006 #91 of 380
    jkovach

    jkovach TiVoing since 1999!

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    I'm really surprised to hear that some people actually use the VCR+ 'feature'. I never understood why that was included - the whole point of Tivo was the built-in program listings, etc. that made it so easy to find the shows you want to record.

    So, to those people who actually use(d) VCR+, can you explain why?

    Thanks!
     
  12. Dec 4, 2006 #92 of 380
    jole60

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    raardvark, the Pioneer/Toshiba Tivo/DVD combo boxes come with free Basic Tivo which provides only three days of Guide listings. Using VCR+ on the 810H with the weekly listings provided by my local paper allows me to schedule recordings over seven days. I can also go to the TV Guide website and obtain VCR+ codes for listings that will enable me to set up recordings over a 16-day period. In other words, especially for those who do not purchase subscriptions, the VCR+ function is a useful add-on to the 810H box that enhances the overall Tivo experience.

    It appears that this capability was damaged by the 8.1 upgrade. I hope that other 810H owners will check out this function and notify CS about the problem.
     
  13. Dec 4, 2006 #93 of 380
    jole60

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    Oops! Message #94 was meant to be addressed to jkovach. Sorry about that, raardvark.
     
  14. Dec 8, 2006 #94 of 380
    tdelena

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    I am using a Pioneer DVR-810HS.

    1. I decided to upgrade my hard drive from 80G to 320G. I bought a brand new 320G Western Digital hard drive (7200.10) At the time I had 7.3 software. Used mfsbackup -Tao - /dev/hda | mfsrestore -s 127 -r 4 -xzpi - /dev/hdc

    Everything worked great. Shows copied over had variable to 411 hours. Worked fine for 10 days until 8.1 arrived.

    2. Received 8.1 and now the machine reboots 2 seconds after getting to Central menu. Others are experiencing this too. I was not sure what the problem was at the time.

    3. Put my 80G back in with 7.3 software. It ran slow, but worked. Downloaded the service update and rebooted. 8.1 runs on the 80G. No rebooting. However, it is very slow at the Central menu and is constantly accessing the hard drive. It was not this way before 8.1.

    4. Did the same command as before outlined above copying the image from the 80G to the 320G.

    5. Placed the 320G in the machine and get the same constant rebooting action when it gets to the Central menu.

    This really blows. Did they prevent users from adding larger drives with this new software? I fgind it hard to believe that my 10 day old hard drive is bad. Possible hardware problem. Appreciate any advice/comments.
     
  15. Dec 8, 2006 #95 of 380
    megazone

    megazone Hardcore TiVo Geek

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    Did you make sure to enlarge the swap partition when moving to the larger drive?

    People often goof when going to huge drives and it causes problems.
     
  16. Dec 8, 2006 #96 of 380
    rcobourn

    rcobourn Registered Snoozer

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    For a 320 GB drive you should be using a swap size of at least 160 and you should be using tpip to initialize it. The new software is running fine on my 320GB upgraded 810 using those paramters.
     
  17. Dec 8, 2006 #97 of 380
    tdelena

    tdelena New Member

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    Yes, I did do a copy using -s 300 for a huge swap file, but I never used tpip. What does tpip do and how should I use it?

    Thanks!
     
  18. Dec 8, 2006 #98 of 380
    tdelena

    tdelena New Member

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    Does this look correct?

    # tpip -k vmlinux-3.0.px -o kernel.bak -s /dev/hde
     
  19. Dec 21, 2006 #99 of 380
    RioDR

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    I have a Pioneer 810 and I'm thinking about getting another Tivo (non-DVD) for the upstairs. 80hr Tivo at Best Buy right now for $219.99, with a $220 rebate. If I ever get the rebate back, I'll have only paid the tax. I am networked, my question is with Multi-Room, I should be able to view the Now Playing list of the other Tivos on the network, but can I burn a DVD of programs not originally recorded on the Pioneer? I understand that shows that are transfered are actually copied to the other Tivo, but will there a restriction on it being burned? I'll probably get the "free" Tivo whether or not I can burn DVDs of transferred shows, but I just want to know which Tivo to use for priority recordings. Thanks in advance.
     
  20. generaltso

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    No. The Pioneer records in a specific DVD format so that its programs can be recorded onto DVD. Shows can be transferred to the Pioneer from other TiVos, but they cannot be burned to DVD.
     

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