Actually it does allow you to download shows to your iPad, it just depends on your cable company as to which shows you can download. In my case only the premium channels are protected so I can download almost anything. As for streaming outside the home... You mentioned in another thread that the Slingbox doesn't work very well for that, and my own experience has been the same, so why are you putting so much value into that aspect of it? If it doesn't work in practice then that's the point in having it? But in any case if you're happy with your Slingbox that's fine. But why do you feel the need to call the TiVo Stream a "piece of crap"? It does exactly what it's advertised as doing and it does it well. No need to bash it just because it doesn't meet your unfounded expectations. Edit: One more thing... The Slingbox HD costs $270. Add the $30 for the iPad app* and you're looking at $300 for that setup. Is streaming outside the home really worth $170 to you? Dan * They charge $30 for every version of the app, so if you want to watch your Slingbox on your iPhone and your iPad you have to buy two $30 apps.