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Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by _Ryan_, Jun 9, 2010.

  1. RichB

    RichB Member

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    I agree about the pause ad's. It lacks class.

    I had to laugh, I always do the same thing with dealerships. I offer to rent them advertising space. No takers. :p

    I also tell them not to expect me to pay for a car with their emblem on it ;)

    - Rich
     
  2. RichB

    RichB Member

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    NO ad's for lifetime service.

    How about no fee but you have to watch commercials. Any takers :eek:

    - Rich
     
  3. windsurfdog

    windsurfdog Hoof Hearted?

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    Ads? What ads? :rolleyes:
     
  4. jmccorm

    jmccorm Special Forum Guest

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    Your imagined fee structure is off-target, but you have the correct basic idea. I don't want freeware-style sponsored advertising. (Even more so when it the hardware and the service isn't free to begin with.) I have no problem paying more in order remove the nuisance which screams that I'm either stupid or cheap.
     
  5. jerryboyle

    jerryboyle New Member

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    Check the alt.video.ptv.tivo newsgroup for my 8/29 post titled "TiVo Premiere hack to disable annoying ads when pausing".

    This hack essentially turns the Pause button into a Pause-Clear button. You can undo the hack simply by repeating it, i.e. it acts as a toggle.

    Wish there were an easy way to collect my monthly fee!
     
  6. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    Could you post it here? Or would that be bad?
     
  7. jerryboyle

    jerryboyle New Member

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    **WARNING (8/31) ** This hack isn't behaving quite as expected. After a cold reboot to try to clear Netflix issues, the unit rebooted again shortly thereafter for reasons unknown. After the 2nd reboot Pause ads came back, as expected, for SD menus but not for HD menus. Play bar behavior reverted as expected for both HD and SD menus. All else seems normal so far. Consider this hack risky pending further testing. Volunteer testers please report your results. Thanks, Jerry

    **UPDATE (9/1) ** The unexpected reboot did not occur after reapplying the hack and doing a restart; also the Pause ads and Play bar came back, as expected, in both HD and SD menus. The hack now behaves exactly as I expected and initially described it and I've observed no adverse consequences. Since the S-P-S sequences have been around since TiVo Series 1 days when TiVo made no attempt to hide them, they are as safe as hacks can be. But they're still hacks and aren't officially supported by TiVo. Proceed with caution, if you like, and please report your results if you do. Thanks, Jerry.

    From alt.video.ptv.tivo:

    This extends a well-received TiVo S3 hack that I posted some time ago so
    that it also works for the HD menus of the TiVo Premiere. As others noted
    then you can clear the ads manually with the Clear button or by tapping the
    FF button each time you pause, but this does it automatically. I just wanted
    to share this here in case no one else has discovered and posted it.


    ** TiVo Premiere/S3 hack to disable annoying ads when pausing **

    1. Switch to SD menus:

    TiVo | Messages & Settings | Settings | Displays | Choose TiVo Menus | TiVo
    with SD Menus

    2. Execute (slightly modified) hack to make Play bar disappear quickly:

    Live TV-Pause-Down Arrow-Select-Play-Select-Pause-Select

    3. Switch back to HD menus:

    TiVo | Messages & Settings | Settings | Displays | Choose TiVo Menus | TiVo
    with HD Menus


    Skip steps 1 and 3 if you're using SD menus or for TiVo S3. Repeat above
    after each reboot.
     
  8. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    Thanks! I didn't know it was not persistent, so I probably won't bother. Especially since I do still want to see the bar, just not the Ad's nor the "more info about" stuff. I wish they (TiVo) would give us some control over this stuff.
     
  9. lujan

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    I couldn't get the hack to work on my Premiere.
     
  10. jerryboyle

    jerryboyle New Member

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    Check the section titled Select-Play-Select Codes in the New Almost Complete TiVo Codes List thread. This is in the TiVo Underground forum. I think this link should get you there:

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=122090

    Select-Play-Select codes can be tricky to enter and may take several attempts until you get the rhythm. I almost always get them to work the first time by holding the remote absolutely still, placing one thumb on the Select key and the other thumb on the Play key and then entering the sequence in a steady rhythm of about 2 key presses per second.

    As the referenced forum thread states you may have more luck if you Pause when playing a recording rather than in Live TV. Both ways work.

    Just be sure

    1. You're in SD Menus - the S-P-S-Pause-S code won't work in HD Menus.

    2. You clear *all* Pause ads before entering the sequence - you may need to hit Down more than once. Make sure you hit the key below Select, not the Slow key below Pause.

    3. Don't leave SD Menus if the Pause ads still appear there. If they're still present in SD Menus they'll still be there in HD Menus. If you need multiple S-P-S-Pause-S attempts, go back to TiVo Central before going back to Live TV or playing a recording and reentering the sequence. Sometimes if your 1st attempt fails TiVo seems to ignore subsequent attempts in Live TV or that recording. If the S-P-S sequence is successful you'll hear a Ding-Ding-Ding sound.

    4. Note the **WARNING** that I added to the hack. If you're not an experienced user or a gambler who hates these ads, don't try this hack. So far I've still had no problems except that my Pause ads seem to be gone forever in HD Menus - I expected them to return after each reboot.

    Good luck if you choose to proceed. Please report any success or problems you encounter.
     
  11. jerryboyle

    jerryboyle New Member

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    We had a discussion about the loss of the Play bar when I originally proposed this hack for the TiVo S3. This was shortly after they introduced the sometimes useful More About This Show buttons when you paused. One experienced user was thrilled to get rid of everything, finding the Play bar even more obtrusive than the new button; I generally agree with him but sometimes I want it and sometimes I miss it. Another user stated that he liked my hack better than his technique of using the FF button to clear the screen. I liked the FF idea better than my own hack because FF is right next to Pause; as a lefty it's quite awkward to stretch for the Clear button after you hit Pause. However, now that they've replaced the useful More About button with nothing but ads I prefer my hack.

    Try the FF button instead of Clear if you don't use my hack - I think you'll like it. And speaking of FF I should warn everyone that my hack also quickly clears the Play bar during FF mode; again this is a mixed blessing depending on your preferences.

    Also note my 9/1 update to the posted hack. I now feel more confident about it, but users should still evaluate the risk.
     
  12. Fofer

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    Thanks for this info, jerryboyle. I was able to invoke the hack to get the ad (and playbar) to hide quickly. Will see how I like it for awhile. Those ads make my eyes bleed.

    Now I wish there was a button to make the playbar appear for a bit (without resuming/affecting the video playback.)
     
  13. worachj

    worachj Active Member

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    Hit the play button.
     
  14. Fofer

    Fofer XenForo Rocks! TCF Club

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    Yeah, except that "resumes/affects the video playback."
     
  15. steve614

    steve614 what ru lookin at?

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    Which is the lesser evil? You can't have your cake and eat it too.

    When I pause, it's because I want to see what is on the screen. That is more important than seeing the progress bar, so that's what I choose.
    The only purpose of the progress bar is to show you where you are in the recording. Press play before you pause, or while you're watching.
    Problem solved.
     

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