I had several recordings scheduled with start/end set to 1 minute extra at either end. Two of these (at least) were on the same channel (BBC America, Doctor Who specials), and I noticed both recordings have a brief glitch with video pausing and pixellating at just about exactly the 1 minute mark where the Roamio would have been cranking up (or finishing, depending on how you look at it) the next show on the same channel.
Is this merely a coincidence, or have others seen the same thing with overlapping recordings on the same channel?
I guess I should experiment with explicitly recording some stuff that will overlap and see if it happens every time.
I've been experiencing a similar problem this week, but what I discovered is that it actually did record the second overlapping show, but the MPEG navigation data is corrupted.
If you just let the program play, even though it only shows 1 minute of recording on the display, it will actually keep playing after that (but only after looping back to the beginning once). If you fast forward or rewind, it resets back to the beginning of the recording. While playing the show in this fashion, the playback progress bar is stuck at 0 minutes.
For me, it's been doing this with the Daily Show and Colbert Report where the recording overlaps by 1 minute. The Colbert Report for the last few days has displayed as only having one recorded minute (green filled area) in the play bar, but the side summary info shows 31 minutes, and it will play as described above.
Your Daily Show is probably OK, but your Colbert Report has a signal problem. Some transport stream timing data (Program Clock Reference?) is missing or corrupted or not incrementing properly. TiVo uses that data for some trick play and other purposes. If it's garbled for the whole recording, the TiVo may even conclude that no time elapsed and therefore no video data was captured, and it will then discard the recording even though actually everything is there but the timing data. I have a local OTA station that has had that problem occasionally. The fact that you have one good minute of a different show at the beginning of your recording keeps the whole thing from being discarded when it ends.
Your Daily Show is probably OK, but your Colbert Report has a signal problem. Some transport stream timing data (Program Clock Reference?) is missing or corrupted or not incrementing properly. TiVo uses that data for some trick play and other purposes. If it's garbled for the whole recording, the TiVo may even conclude that no time elapsed and therefore no video data was captured, and it will then discard the recording even though actually everything is there but the timing data. I have a local OTA station that has had that problem occasionally. The fact that you have one good minute of a different show at the beginning of your recording keeps the whole thing from being discarded when it ends.
Correct, the Daily Show recording is always fine. I'm not sure if it uses streams like the old DVD MPEG streams, but those had separate navigation data sub streams that told you how far ahead to jump for x2, x4, etc. If those were corrupted, that would probably result in what I'm seeing.
Can someone confirm whetther a 1 or 2 minute "padding" on a Roamio Plus/Pro will cause the glitch to occur.
I am looking to replace my Oled S3 and have VZ FIOS..... I have to pad almost every season pass in order to get the last min. of the program I am recording/watching, and many recorded shows are on the came channel back to back (Discovery, SciFi, etc.).
Can someone confirm whetther a 1 or 2 minute "padding" on a Roamio Plus/Pro will cause the glitch to occur.
I am looking to replace my Oled S3 and have VZ FIOS..... I have to pad almost every season pass in order to get the last min. of the program I am recording/watching, and many recorded shows are on the came channel back to back (Discovery, SciFi, etc.).
Can someone confirm whetther a 1 or 2 minute "padding" on a Roamio Plus/Pro will cause the glitch to occur.
I am looking to replace my Oled S3 and have VZ FIOS..... I have to pad almost every season pass in order to get the last min. of the program I am recording/watching, and many recorded shows are on the came channel back to back (Discovery, SciFi, etc.).
Correct (in my experience). Note, however, that the glitch is relatively minor (only affecting 2 or 3 seconds of the recording); not everyone on this thread reports seeing it; and it will probably (one hopes) be rectified soon in a firmware update.
In no way should you let this issue deter you from your purchase if you want to upgrade. And since it's firmware-related, you are just as likely to encounter it on a Premiere as a Roamio.
I have the exact same issue with back to back shows that record on same channel. I set my shows to record for one extra minute otherwise the recording stops before the end of the show. The other issue I have noticed is the second recording on same channel is clipped at the beginning and then within a minute you see pixellation and blocking that lasts for a few seconds. This anomaly usually happens twice.
Not going to help on Sunday night on CBS. I have to record the second program that's back to back on same channel with overlap on my Premiere XL. Right now I cannot recommend a Roamio to anyone because of this problem.
Not going to help on Sunday night on CBS. I have to record the second program that's back to back on same channel with overlap on my Premiere XL. Right now I cannot recommend a Roamio to anyone because of this problem.
You usually have to pad on CBS on Sunday nights due to sports. Right now I record 60 Minutes on my Premiere XL and TAR on the Roamio Pro, with a 90 minute pad on the end of the show on both shows.
You usually have to pad on CBS on Sunday nights due to sports. Right now I record 60 Minutes on my Premiere XL and TAR on the Roamio Pro, with a 90 minute pad on the end of the show on both shows.
That just means that you can't utilize the "solution", not that it wouldn't help.
Right now, I'm sort of torn. The video glitch, while annoying, is tolerable, and without this feature, I would need at least 7 HD tuners to have even minor padding for the Sunday night shows that don't repeat. When you include the stuff that does repeat but I would prefer to get the first showing of, it goes to 9. I have 8 - a THD, a Premiere, and a Roamio Basic.
I just hope that they at least get the scheduler problem fixed before NFL season.
You usually have to pad on CBS on Sunday nights due to sports. Right now I record 60 Minutes on my Premiere XL and TAR on the Roamio Pro, with a 90 minute pad on the end of the show on both shows.
I had two shows missed due to the 'No Longer in Guide' error this past week. All my season passes are padded by 2 minutes on each end. In both instances the shows were the 2nd of back to back records on FOX (though channel doesn't matter, I've had it happen on multiple channels int he past). On 3/3 'The Following' failed to record - 'Almost Human' recorded fine before it. Tonight 3/11, 'Brooklyn 99' failed to record while 'New Girl' recorded fine before it.
Cannot wait for the spring update to turn off this feature until it actually works properly.
Actually, I'm a bit annoyed that Tivo didn't fix this quickly (or yet). They KNEW this feature didn't work correctly. They took it out of an update and then added it back. This was November 2013.
Seems to me Tivo's first priority should be to make their DVR functions work correctly.
Actually, I'm a bit annoyed that Tivo didn't fix this quickly (or yet). They KNEW this feature didn't work correctly. They took it out of an update and then added it back. This was November 2013.
I have season passes for such things as football and basketball games. I have set these to add 1 1/2 hours at the end. My experience is that when there's 2 end to end games on the same channel that it fails to record the second one entirely.
It shows the second one in the todo list until the first one completes and then the second one disapears and does not record with a history item saying failed to record - no longer in guide.
I've now had to keep checking the todo list for these sorts of situations and create a manual record to get both and then cancelling the others in the todo list.
Does anyone know.....can you only add 1 TSN to the priority list? I added my first Roamio and it took, but the second said it's not eligible. Also in the error page it has a conflicting statement:
"If your box is a TiVo Roamio or a TiVo Mini it will be automatically updated the day the release becomes available."
Just looking forward to being able to pad shows again.
EDIT: Margret fixed the issue for Basic TSN not being able to sign up.
In central time zone, so Modern Family & Mixology were on between 8-9.
Yes, there were five other channels recording between 8-9PM. Three people using the Roamio with very different interests in TV shows. Using all six tuners sometimes on Thursdays and Sundays too.
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