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Overlapping recordings cause glitch?

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by tomhorsley, Dec 26, 2013.

  1. Feb 10, 2014 #41 of 112
    kbmb

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    This happens on the Roamio as well.

    -Kevin
     
  2. Feb 10, 2014 #42 of 112
    ejonesss

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    if everyone could tell tivo to please fix the bug it is probably as simple as utilizing the other tuner(s) during the overlaps

    we dont care about watching another channel while the overlap happens so we can get away with all tuner(s) being busy)
     
  3. Feb 10, 2014 #43 of 112
    Wendy in NY

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    Yes, I have overlapping records (a minute) and it glitches right at that point. Also, my Roamio Pro (5 months old) just had it's very first spontaneous reboot.
     
  4. Feb 10, 2014 #44 of 112
    stacycris

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    That's what I figured. Thanks! :)
     
  5. Feb 10, 2014 #45 of 112
    mattack

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    Umm, that's exactly what it USED to do. This (improvement), if it worked properly, would
    HUGELY increase my 'effective' number of tuners, since a LOT of the padding I need is due to shows that abut each other on the same channel.

    Now that I have a 6 tuner Roamio, it's actually much less _needed_ (it being the use the same tuner), but I'd still appreciate it if it worked properly.


    Last night I had the NBC Nightly News fail to record because I made the Olympics go an hour later... and the reason in history was that the power was lost! But I actually had the NBC Nightly news in the Olympics recording. (I guess because most everything is tape delayed, they aren't really going over time very much). I ended up downloading it, chopping that section out, and watching it on VLC. (and argh, today they did put up the audio podcast of yesterday's ep.. sigh)
     
  6. Feb 11, 2014 #46 of 112
    ejonesss

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    everyone please waste your and tivo's time complain to them and just like a ddos attack overwhelm them so that just like flappy bird http://www.slyck.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=64098 they will crack and stop sitting on fixes

    tivo if you are watching these forums and judging by

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/announcement.php?f=42&a=112

    you are watching these forums

    if you do not give us back our multiple tuners and stop using the software to emulate additional tuners we will be forced to return our boxes to the place of purchase for refund (users within the guarantee time) and tell them this box is being returned due to your trying to emulate extra tuners.

    also if you have boxes in stock configuration still under warranty please open an rma and return the box for repair and repeat with the description of the problem.

    eventually they will eat thousands maybe millions on unnecessary replacements of hard drives , power supplies and motherboards and even complete boxes trying to satisfy customers that maybe they will learn fix the problem in a desperate last ditch attempt to get back their customers
     
  7. Feb 11, 2014 #47 of 112
    ejonesss

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    also seeing that roamio is effected too is this tuner emulation about money so if i buy the roamio pro at $600 does it have real tuners and much less prone to the problem?
     
  8. Feb 11, 2014 #48 of 112
    ejonesss

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    update: i just tweeted to tivo voicing my problem

    twitter.com/tivo i included a block of text in an image so you should be able to get more info
     
  9. Feb 11, 2014 #49 of 112
    L David Matheny

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    You're missing one point here: Most of us don't want TiVo to back away from single-tuner overlap handling because it's an excellent feature. We just want them to get it working properly by doing the copying in a background task so it won't interfere with the essential foreground task of capturing the transport stream of the recording. If they get it right, it will be great.
     
  10. Feb 11, 2014 #50 of 112
    ejonesss

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    @L David Matheny ok how about making the single tuner an option that can be disabled
     
  11. Feb 11, 2014 #51 of 112
    kbmb

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    If they actually got the feature to work, I'm not sure why anyone would turn it off. If it works as expected, it's transparent to the user.

    You only want to turn it off now because it doesn't work right.

    -Kevin
     
  12. Feb 11, 2014 #52 of 112
    ejonesss

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    some of us dont want a feature
     
  13. Feb 11, 2014 #53 of 112
    astrohip

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    If this feature worked perfectly, you wouldn't want it? :confused:

    BTW, this is a semi-rhetorical question. Only semi, as I do want to hear your answer. But in reality, if it worked perfectly, you wouldn't even know whether it used one or two tuners without doing a lot of work to find out.
     
  14. Feb 11, 2014 #54 of 112
    mattack

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    If it worked properly, THERE WOULD BE NO REASON FOR TURNING IT OFF.

    It *effectively* GIVES YOU MORE TUNERS FOR FREE.

    Don't you like free stuff?
     
  15. Feb 11, 2014 #55 of 112
    lpwcomp

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    I think it more likely that the problem is the process that "splices" the two pieces of video together not doing it cleanly, not "interference" with recording.
     
  16. Feb 11, 2014 #56 of 112
    lpwcomp

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    This is almost certainly the single most requested feature. It would definitely be a nice feature if it worked properly. However, the problems encountered are why I did not want them to attempt to implement it until they fix their s/w design, development and testing process.
     
  17. Feb 12, 2014 #57 of 112
    ejonesss

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    ok maybe make it one of them back door features or one of them button dance like thumbs down 3 times then enter then a b c and d and enter like code so they dont clutter up the interface if they are looking for a clean interface.


    @mattack if you want it then you can leave it on if you want more tuners you can buy a second box there are even boxes on ebay.

    with our somewhat disposable income we just buy another box and branch out our content.

    do you know is this feature only on the 2 and maybe 4 tuner boxes so if i buy the 6 tuner plus or pro roamios would the feature not be there.

    maybe a better idea is to have the box merge all consecutive shows into 1 long clip so if there are marathons you may have a 12 hour long recording.

    or make the feature alacart or an add on like you have in your browser
     
  18. Feb 12, 2014 #58 of 112
    lpwcomp

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    As mattack pointed out, there is flat out no reason to disable this feature if it worked properly. They should either fix it or pull it.

    I do not agree that
    It simply uses the existing tuners more efficiently.

    IMNSHO, the way they implemented this is a giant kludge.

    Again IMNSHO, the proper way would have required a rewrite of the file system so that recording blocks could be linked to multiple recordings. Of course that would have only solved the "glitch" problem. The scheduler problems are a whole 'nother can of worms.
     
  19. Feb 12, 2014 #59 of 112
    Carlos_E

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    I am getting the same error. Do you have the original HD installed in the Roamio or did you upgrade the drive.

    I upgraded my drive so I thought the digital glitch in the recording could be caused by the WD hard drive.

    I have a tuning adapter as well and I see the pixelation glitch.
     
  20. Feb 12, 2014 #60 of 112
    ejonesss

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    what about those with 4 and 6 tuner roamios?

    are they getting the problems
     

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