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Overlapping recordings cause glitch?

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by tomhorsley, Dec 26, 2013.

  1. Jan 8, 2014 #21 of 112
    kbmb

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    That's what I was seeing. When I first got the Roamio Plus I had a Tues. night where I would have needed 8 tuners....but somehow Tivo was using it's overlap feature to share and try to get all the recordings. Of course, it didn't really work :rolleyes:

    I'm not sure why they put in back in the production software after taking it out.....seems that it's just far to buggy right now to have in production software.

    That's also how I tested in the past......you just need to have all tuners being used to record and setup one back-to-back recording during that time.

    -Kevin
     
  2. Jan 23, 2014 #22 of 112
    dahnb2000

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    I've reported this to Tivo several times. Broken 2 months now & the response is "they are aware of it & working on it" which is better than their previous support trying to blame the problem on my tivos. Since I have 2 boxes doing the exact same thing their troubleshooting steps are (were) less than worthless.

    Why does it take them 2 months to fix what they broke in one update?
     
  3. Jan 23, 2014 #23 of 112
    kbmb

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    According to TivoMargret, it's fixed in the next update:
    https://twitter.com/tivodesign/status/426188501999030273

    No idea when that update is, or whether they are going to really FIX it or just turn it off again.

    I missed 2 shows the last 2 nights because of this.

    -Kevin
     
  4. Jan 31, 2014 #24 of 112
    kbmb

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    Missed yet another show last night because of this padding issue "No longer in guide"

    Really not pleased that we have to wait until March/April to have a fix.

    Guess I have no choice but to hit every season pass and don't pad it until the fix comes out.

    -Kevin
     
  5. Feb 3, 2014 #25 of 112
    wtherrell

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    Just had this happen again today. Very Annoying. :thumbsdown: It affects my Premiere Elite but not my THD or series 2.
     
  6. Feb 3, 2014 #26 of 112
    aaronwt

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    I've been checking out this padding thing lately and it's been working well the last few times I specifically looked at it. Last night it was done with the shows after the Superbowl. It even did it while I was watching something. I rewound live TV and was watching the end of the New girl recording which also was scheduled for 15 minutes of B99. And I had my B99 recording set to start with an extra 15 minutes also. At the end it turned into the B99 recording. Although it did produce a split second glitch in the recording when it did this. Otherwise it worked fine.
     
  7. Feb 3, 2014 #27 of 112
    mattack

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    yes, the glitch.. I also ran into the 'generic unnamed recording' when padding a show yesterday, to pad New Girl & Brooklyn 99 extra...
     
  8. Feb 10, 2014 #28 of 112
    stacycris

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    I am having issue as well. So, since TiVo, is apparently "aware of the issue," should I not even bother calling them about this?

    Thanks.
     
  9. Feb 10, 2014 #29 of 112
    ejonesss

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    i am om a premere not romaio yet and i am getting this problem too.

    i just tried a ssd solid state drive in hopes it is access speed issue.

    padding does not sound right since to pad is usually to compensate for example to pad the time code you may add some junk at the end of the show to make up for the missing data.

    when you burn an audio cd the 2 seconds of silence added is like padding or when you fill up the remaining space on a check that could be padding.

    is anyone getting the glitches on their romaios? i am thinking of buying a romaio but if it has the same problem i may not buy so yet
     
  10. Feb 10, 2014 #30 of 112
    kbmb

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    Tivo knows about the issue. Unless you want to waste your time, I wouldn't bother calling and talking to anyone.

    Tivo Margret says it's fixed in the update hopefully in March.

    -Kevin
     
  11. Feb 10, 2014 #31 of 112
    kbmb

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    When you pad back to back recordings on the same channel with padding, without this functionality the Tivo should for example use 2 tuners at the point the first show ends and the next starts.

    Tivo is trying to save from using that extra tuner where they keep the recording going and then somewhere in software they split the file into the 2 shows. It's this split that is causing the issue.

    It's software related, not drive speed related.

    -Kevin
     
  12. Feb 10, 2014 #32 of 112
    ejonesss

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    is there a way to force the box to use the second tuner?
     
  13. Feb 10, 2014 #33 of 112
    kbmb

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    Nope.

    I chose to remove all padding on season passes for now because this bug can also programs to be missed completely at random.

    -Kevin
     
  14. Feb 10, 2014 #34 of 112
    ejonesss

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    how do i remove the padding?
     
  15. Feb 10, 2014 #35 of 112
    kbmb

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    You would have setup padding in each season pass. Edit the season passes and remove any start or ending padding.

    -Kevin
     
  16. Feb 10, 2014 #36 of 112
    ejonesss

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    is the padding the start early and end late settings?

    i have mine set to start 10 minutes early and 15 minutes late.

    why 15 minutes is because it should end during the commercials because the first segment is 12 to 14 minutes long so the glitch then should happen during the commercials thereby not be a problem.

    the other option is to do manual recording and set it to start say at the 50 minute of the previous hour and end 15 minutes after the following hour so

    7:50 pm to 9:15 pm thereby it blindly records and no padding because it isnt tracking the length of the show
     
  17. Feb 10, 2014 #37 of 112
    cherry ghost

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    Yes
     
  18. Feb 10, 2014 #38 of 112
    kbmb

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    I have no idea exactly what Tivo is doing to split the file. I had all my shows padded by 2 minutes on the end, however, the glitch occurs about 1 minute in. I would think it would glitch at 2 minutes in, but it doesn't.

    -Kevin
     
  19. Feb 10, 2014 #39 of 112
    cherry ghost

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    This is another problem, we're not getting the full pad on the first show. If you activate the clock in the upper right corner of your TV, you'll see that the first show stops early and then that's where the glitch is in the second show.
     
  20. Feb 10, 2014 #40 of 112
    ejonesss

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    @cherry ghost that's why i use 10 minutes on each side before but it is now 10 and 15 in hopes to eliminate the blips and to ensure i get all of the show.

    is the romaio also prone to the same glitching? meaning has tivo fixed the bug by the time that the romaio was released?
     

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