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Overlapping recordings cause glitch?

19K views 111 replies 37 participants last post by  mattack 
#1 ·
I had several recordings scheduled with start/end set to 1 minute extra at either end. Two of these (at least) were on the same channel (BBC America, Doctor Who specials), and I noticed both recordings have a brief glitch with video pausing and pixellating at just about exactly the 1 minute mark where the Roamio would have been cranking up (or finishing, depending on how you look at it) the next show on the same channel.

Is this merely a coincidence, or have others seen the same thing with overlapping recordings on the same channel?

I guess I should experiment with explicitly recording some stuff that will overlap and see if it happens every time.
 
#28 ·
I had several recordings scheduled with start/end set to 1 minute extra at either end. Two of these (at least) were on the same channel (BBC America, Doctor Who specials), and I noticed both recordings have a brief glitch with video pausing and pixellating at just about exactly the 1 minute mark where the Roamio would have been cranking up (or finishing, depending on how you look at it) the next show on the same channel.
I am having issue as well. So, since TiVo, is apparently "aware of the issue," should I not even bother calling them about this?

Thanks.
 
#29 ·
i am om a premere not romaio yet and i am getting this problem too.

i just tried a ssd solid state drive in hopes it is access speed issue.

padding does not sound right since to pad is usually to compensate for example to pad the time code you may add some junk at the end of the show to make up for the missing data.

when you burn an audio cd the 2 seconds of silence added is like padding or when you fill up the remaining space on a check that could be padding.

is anyone getting the glitches on their romaios? i am thinking of buying a romaio but if it has the same problem i may not buy so yet
 
#31 ·
i am om a premere not romaio yet and i am getting this problem too.

i just tried a ssd solid state drive in hopes it is access speed issue.

padding does not sound right since to pad is usually to compensate for example to pad the time code you may add some junk at the end of the show to make up for the missing data.

when you burn an audio cd the 2 seconds of silence added is like padding or when you fill up the remaining space on a check that could be padding.

is anyone getting the glitches on their romaios? i am thinking of buying a romaio but if it has the same problem i may not buy so yet
When you pad back to back recordings on the same channel with padding, without this functionality the Tivo should for example use 2 tuners at the point the first show ends and the next starts.

Tivo is trying to save from using that extra tuner where they keep the recording going and then somewhere in software they split the file into the 2 shows. It's this split that is causing the issue.

It's software related, not drive speed related.

-Kevin
 
#36 ·
is the padding the start early and end late settings?

i have mine set to start 10 minutes early and 15 minutes late.

why 15 minutes is because it should end during the commercials because the first segment is 12 to 14 minutes long so the glitch then should happen during the commercials thereby not be a problem.

the other option is to do manual recording and set it to start say at the 50 minute of the previous hour and end 15 minutes after the following hour so

7:50 pm to 9:15 pm thereby it blindly records and no padding because it isnt tracking the length of the show
 
#38 ·
is the padding the start early and end late settings?

i have mine set to start 10 minutes early and 15 minutes late.

why 15 minutes is because it should end during the commercials because the first segment is 12 to 14 minutes long so the glitch then should happen during the commercials thereby not be a problem.

the other option is to do manual recording and set it to start say at the 50 minute of the previous hour and end 15 minutes after the following hour so

7:50 pm to 9:15 pm thereby it blindly records and no padding because it isnt tracking the length of the show
I have no idea exactly what Tivo is doing to split the file. I had all my shows padded by 2 minutes on the end, however, the glitch occurs about 1 minute in. I would think it would glitch at 2 minutes in, but it doesn't.

-Kevin
 
#39 ·
I have no idea exactly what Tivo is doing to split the file. I had all my shows padded by 2 minutes on the end, however, the glitch occurs about 1 minute in. I would think it would glitch at 2 minutes in, but it doesn't.

-Kevin
This is another problem, we're not getting the full pad on the first show. If you activate the clock in the upper right corner of your TV, you'll see that the first show stops early and then that's where the glitch is in the second show.
 
#40 ·
@cherry ghost that's why i use 10 minutes on each side before but it is now 10 and 15 in hopes to eliminate the blips and to ensure i get all of the show.

is the romaio also prone to the same glitching? meaning has tivo fixed the bug by the time that the romaio was released?
 
#45 ·
if everyone could tell tivo to please fix the bug it is probably as simple as utilizing the other tuner(s) during the overlaps
Umm, that's exactly what it USED to do. This (improvement), if it worked properly, would
HUGELY increase my 'effective' number of tuners, since a LOT of the padding I need is due to shows that abut each other on the same channel.

Now that I have a 6 tuner Roamio, it's actually much less _needed_ (it being the use the same tuner), but I'd still appreciate it if it worked properly.

Last night I had the NBC Nightly News fail to record because I made the Olympics go an hour later... and the reason in history was that the power was lost! But I actually had the NBC Nightly news in the Olympics recording. (I guess because most everything is tape delayed, they aren't really going over time very much). I ended up downloading it, chopping that section out, and watching it on VLC. (and argh, today they did put up the audio podcast of yesterday's ep.. sigh)
 
#46 ·
everyone please waste your and tivo's time complain to them and just like a ddos attack overwhelm them so that just like flappy bird http://www.slyck.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=64098 they will crack and stop sitting on fixes

tivo if you are watching these forums and judging by

http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/announcement.php?f=42&a=112

you are watching these forums

if you do not give us back our multiple tuners and stop using the software to emulate additional tuners we will be forced to return our boxes to the place of purchase for refund (users within the guarantee time) and tell them this box is being returned due to your trying to emulate extra tuners.

also if you have boxes in stock configuration still under warranty please open an rma and return the box for repair and repeat with the description of the problem.

eventually they will eat thousands maybe millions on unnecessary replacements of hard drives , power supplies and motherboards and even complete boxes trying to satisfy customers that maybe they will learn fix the problem in a desperate last ditch attempt to get back their customers
 
#49 ·
if you do not give us back our multiple tuners and stop using the software to emulate additional tuners we will be forced to return our boxes to the place of purchase for refund (users within the guarantee time) and tell them this box is being returned due to your trying to emulate extra tuners.
You're missing one point here: Most of us don't want TiVo to back away from single-tuner overlap handling because it's an excellent feature. We just want them to get it working properly by doing the copying in a background task so it won't interfere with the essential foreground task of capturing the transport stream of the recording. If they get it right, it will be great.
 
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