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"Orange is the new black" (Netflix orig)

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by scottjf8, Jul 11, 2013.

  1. markz

    markz Hilarity Ensues

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    Connersville...
    I just got to this part. I have to admit, that is pretty much how I feel! Her monologue stated my beliefs in a nice, concise way!
     
  2. TonyTheTiger

    TonyTheTiger Pro Troll Magnet

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    Watched the first two last night and enjoyed them - ep 2 better than the first. Looking forward to binge-watching over the next few days!
     
  3. crazywater

    crazywater USS TiVo NCC-1780

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    I have to admit, I expect no less from the entertainment industry.
     
  4. danielhart

    danielhart Nerp Nerp

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    i'm insane doing a major house remodel...i need to win a poker tourney to pay for it all lol....


    u will love last 4 eps, especially the finale.
     
  5. scottjf8

    scottjf8 Dada and Kaya.

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    Wow, what an ending.
     
  6. doom1701

    doom1701 Time for a new Title

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    Grand...
    If I were going to look at the show as something I'd take meaning away from, I'd criticize the show for the same reason. No remorse from anyone for their crimes. So far I've only seen one character admit that what she did was wrong.
     
  7. markz

    markz Hilarity Ensues

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    Connersville...
    Piper's crime was like 10 years before her prison stay, wasn't it. She has probably already made peace with the fact that she was young and dumb back then. She had turned her life around by the time she went to prison. She knows it was wrong, but why rehash something she can't change. She turned herself in. She knows she did the crime and now she's doing the time.

    Also, showing remorse might make them look weak to the other prisoners (or they may think it would make them look weak.) In a place where you cannot show weakness or you will be taken advantage of, maybe they hide their remorse and put on a bad-ass image.

    ETA:

    Some of the others don't see what they did as wrong. That is their way of life.

    Crazy meth mouth girl knows that anytime you are disrespected, you have to end that person. She believes she is doing God's work.

    Tastee did her time and left. She realized she couldn't make it on the outside, so she did something else to come back.
     
  8. JohnB1000

    JohnB1000 Active Member

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    She didn't turn herself in, that was one of the main points.
     
  9. markz

    markz Hilarity Ensues

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    Connersville...
    Not for the crime, but for the time. She surrendered herself at the prison.
     
  10. Hank

    Hank AC•FTW

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    It's not like she really had a choice. Wouldn't they have come after her and/or issued an arrest warrant if she didn't show up?
     
  11. markz

    markz Hilarity Ensues

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    Connersville...
    Correct. She did not have a choice. But my point is, she is 10 years removed from committing the crime, and has changed her ways. She did not continue with a life of crime or go on the run.
     
  12. betts4

    betts4 I am Spartacus!

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    A Galaxy...
    As for Tastee -
    I felt sorry for her. She got totally lost in a system that should have been watching out for her. Placed in some transitional housing and a job at a library would have been a good new start.
     
  13. TAsunder

    TAsunder Debates Ghee vs Gi

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    Only three episodes in and liking it a lot more than expected.
     
  14. scottjf8

    scottjf8 Dada and Kaya.

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    Rewatching the final 3. I missed some stuff first time around.
     
  15. sharkster

    sharkster Well-Known Member

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    I finally started last night. I watched the first 3 eps. I have to say that, had I not heard great things, I might not have gone past ep 01. I thought the first episode was bad in the strangest way - just off kilter and luggish. But 02 was better and 03 was better than 02, so I'm sticking with it.

    Technically speaking - I don't know if it was the Netflix app or just something different with my Premiere since the last update, but I went out of the room for just a few minutes after E01 ended and when I came back in to continue on I had a black screen. I couldn't do anything except turn the TV off and then back on and get back into Netflix all over again. But it didn't happen the next two times so it must just toss you out if you don't do anything for a few minutes (I was probably gone 5 minutes).
     
  16. danterner

    danterner Not it!

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    I finished watching last night. I really enjoyed this!

    Regarding Healey:

    I don't think Healey's character changed over the course of the series; I think it was just slowly revealed. Neither do I think he had an "anti-lesbian agenda," particularly. Rather, he was a spurned unrequited-lover. He fixates on people who do not love him. We are shown this with his mail-order bride. She obviously is not with him out of love, and he knows this. When Piper enters the prison, he fixates on her, too. He puts her up on a pedestal and sees her as someone else he can save. She is smarter and gentler and more vulnerable than the other prisoners. She needs him. He'll protect her. The more she integrates into the prison, the more she finds her footing, the less she needs him, and so the more hostile he becomes toward her. The tipping point, for him, is reading Larry's article in the Times. She actually has someone waiting for her on the outside who loves her enough to feel like he is imprisoned with her; "One sentence, two prisoners." It's a blow to his heart. It marks the first time he's mean to her - he shows her the article but tosses it in the trash and spills coffee on it; he's a lover spurned. Piper's growing connection with Vauss is yet another blow to his heart. It's not the lesbian aspect of the relationship that so hurts him; it's the fact that Piper has found strength in a relationship with a lover who is not him. The fact that it's a lesbian relationship is just an excuse he uses to mask his jealousy. Piper coming to him to request his permission to marry Larry is almost more than he can take. There's pretty much nothing more hurtful she could have done to him. He bitterly tells her no, and then later when he sees the showdown with Pennsatucky he turns a blind eye because if he can't have Piper, then nobody can.
     
  17. betts4

    betts4 I am Spartacus!

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    A Galaxy...
    Perfect analysis. I hadn't caught that as the tipping point, but now reading it, it makes sense.
     
  18. TAsunder

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    I enjoyed it, but the season had a lot of ups and downs. I felt the first 4 episodes set up a promise that wasn't fully delivered. Still, certainly glad I watched it.
     
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    Maui

    Maui Major Lee Oblivious

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    Finished this the other night. I really enjoyed it. When they cut at the end of the last episode I was so ready to watch another to see what happened.

    And in mentioning the characters and actors I gotta say that I really like Natasha Lyonne in this.
     
  20. Aug 2, 2013 #120 of 199
    FireMen2003

    FireMen2003 Active Member

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    I just ran through the episodes in the last week or so. Great show.

    Checking most of the actresses IMDB info, most of them haven't been in many television productions which makes their acting even better to me :up::up::up:.
     

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