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OOH Streaming Countdown

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by Bierboy, Oct 21, 2013.

  1. NYHeel

    NYHeel Active Member

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    I have to say I'm pleasantly surprised I can download over LTE out of home.
     
  2. rainwater

    rainwater Active Member

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    I believe if it is less than 2Mbps it warns you that you should download it instead. I honestly don't think there is any adaptive bitrate streaming involved. I'm not surprised though as Slingbox has spent years perfecting it and based on the quality of the TiVo app itself (it is horribly ugly and the user interface makes little sense), I am not surprised.
     
  3. bayern_fan

    bayern_fan New Member

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    Really? I've been reading that out-of-home streaming/downloading have required a WiFi connection
     
  4. Kobewan

    Kobewan New Member

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    Yes it does start a recording. Perhaps because you're watching the recording Live, it's technically only being copied once and so you're allowed one viewing remotely as it is happening since it hasn't been fully copied yet? Just a theory, because if you follow the logic through, you can't make sense of it.

    I remain hopeful that its a loophole in CCI byte rules. Let's just hope its a loophole that stays open!
     
  5. NYHeel

    NYHeel Active Member

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    From what people are saying here, only streaming requires WiFi.
     
  6. NYHeel

    NYHeel Active Member

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    I just checked and Tivo still hasn't fixed the space available bug in the app. Really weird as it seems that app shows about 33% more space used than the Tivo itself. I'm pretty sure it does this for every Roamio.
     
  7. jwbelcher

    jwbelcher New Member

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    I agree with that! Lets not speak of it again :)
     
  8. bradleys

    bradleys It'll be fine....

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    I am confused... (Look at me talking about it!)

    So you can watch a live stream (live TV'ish) of a protected show, but not a previously recorded version.

    Place shifting, but not time shifting.

    Interesting...
     
  9. mvnuenen

    mvnuenen ~0.0~

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    Thanks!
     
  10. bradleys

    bradleys It'll be fine....

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    Interesting... I bopped over to a buddies office to pick up his mifi signal and started a stream. I then went back to my office and the video continues on LTE.

    The quality is actually MUCH better then I expected it to be!
     
  11. bob61

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    No support for Android OS despite having more than half the mobile market share? Weak sauce TiVo....

    Sent from my XT1080 using Tapatalk
     
  12. LoadStar

    LoadStar LOAD"*",8,1

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    If streaming live TV does work despite CCI flag, then that would satisfy me. It'd be nice if I could stream recordings, but I'm less concerned about that. I guess I'll have to try it later today. Unfortunately, I grabbed my iPad but didn't know that I'd need to do the setup on the home network first.
     
  13. bradleys

    bradleys It'll be fine....

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    I think the blame goes to Android on this one... The big players haven't agreed upon an adaptive secure video standard. Apple uses HLS and Android has been very slow in implementing a working HLS solution. From what I have been reading the Android version is still buggy even under 4.2 - but I do hope they get it figured out soon.

    TiVo isn't the only one suffering from the pissing match between these two mega companies.
     
  14. davezatz

    davezatz Funkadelic

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    That's their excuse, anyway... but Netflix, HBO, ESPN, Cablevision, etc seem to have figured something suitable out. I don't think they cared enough at first and then didn't have the skill on hand. But now it appears they're serious, so I'm hopeful they finally deliver. By the by, CEO had indicated 2013 for Android, so this is clearly a slip in their roadmap.
     
  15. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    Mission...
    Can you start watching while it continues downloading? If not then it won't be too useful in download mode either.
     
  16. bradleys

    bradleys It'll be fine....

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    I just tested it... Yes, you can start watching it during download.

    It made me wait about 1 minute before there was enough downloaded to start the video.
     
  17. NYHeel

    NYHeel Active Member

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    I don't believe the CEO ever intended to say 2013 for Android. I think the interviewer was talking about roaming in general and then Android and Rogers answered him about roaming and it just sounded like he was talking about Android.
     
  18. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    That's good, thanks for testing. Now it has sparked my interest a lot more. I would envision letting it start downloading for 15 minutes or so and then start watching for uninterrupted viewing + ability to skip commercials etc. Luckily I don't have the CCI nonsense to worry about from my cable company.
     
  19. davezatz

    davezatz Funkadelic

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    Both publicly and privately I've heard Android in 2013 on multiple occasions, starting in 2012. Jason Nealis of RCN was also banking on 2013 based on his collaboration with TiVo and was upset when it was pushed to 2014. But it is what it is.
     
  20. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    The slip to 2014 certainly doesn't help the marketing of it. I heard a Roamio ad on WTOP this morning. The ad mentions iOS only for the OOH streaming. Apparently other people heard it too and someone asked me about it work. But they don't use Apple devices and they were wondering about Android support. I told them that if that was very important to them that there is no guarantee that Android streaming will ever come. That they should buy based on the capabilities now.
     

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