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Only the cheapest one with antenna? No thanks

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by keithlm, Aug 21, 2013.

  1. Aug 21, 2013 #21 of 123
    Tico

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    The real problem with the diaplexer is you cannot combine OTA and cable signal together. They both work in the same frequency range so they would both screwed other up.
    You would have to do it with something like an old school AB switch. And then the TiVo software would have to support both OTA and cable on one tuner at the same time.
     
  2. Aug 21, 2013 #22 of 123
    DaveDFW

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    A diplexer should combine all frequencies that don't overlap. But the question of whether the Tivo guide will allow channels from OTA and cable is unanswered.
     
  3. Aug 21, 2013 #23 of 123
    Tico

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    And ota and cable do overlap on all their frequencies.
     
  4. Aug 21, 2013 #24 of 123
    atmuscarella

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    I must be a little slow today how are you having to choose between better streaming and OTA?
     
  5. Aug 21, 2013 #25 of 123
    hefe

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    No it isn't.
     
  6. Aug 21, 2013 #26 of 123
    trip1eX

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    JUst buy 2 Tivos. Problem solved.
     
  7. Aug 21, 2013 #27 of 123
    ppartekim

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    As another cord cutter, I love the 4-tuner OTA bit. To combine my two S3s into one unit with RF remote... :D No more trying to remember what was recorded on which one..

    I just wish it had a bigger hard drive. My two S3s combined have 2TB so going down to 500GB or 1.5TB (with an external drive attached) is still going backwards..
     
  8. Aug 21, 2013 #28 of 123
    hefe

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    I'm sure that will be easy enough. I bought the cheapest Premiere, and upgraded to a 2TB drive quite easily. I'll just wait to see when someone comes up with the upgrade procedure.
     
  9. Aug 21, 2013 #29 of 123
    DaveDFW

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    I didn't see that. If the online setup guide is correct, then the base Roamio will not accommodate those users who wish to use a combination of cable and OTA.
     
  10. Aug 21, 2013 #30 of 123
    hefe

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    That is true. I wonder if that's a large number of people. Seems like Joe Consumer would pretty much just do one or the other.
     
  11. Aug 21, 2013 #31 of 123
    atmuscarella

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    Also none of these new units can do analog (cable or OTA) and I know there are a few people who have stated their cable companies still have some analog only channels. Personally I am glad they found a way to continue to support OTA - I was beginning to worry that the 2 tuner Premiere might be their last OTA DVR.
     
  12. Aug 21, 2013 #32 of 123
    zgamer

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    Really depends if the internal drive is a 2.5" or 3.5". As the form factor is smaller they could have moved to a 2.5" drive.
     
  13. Aug 21, 2013 #33 of 123
    hefe

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    I guess that would make it a bit more expensive, but not impossible. If it's not upgradeable, that would be a big issue for me.
     
  14. Aug 21, 2013 #34 of 123
    Joe3

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    I have to hang on to what I have, again.

    TiVo is insufficient for the situation where I live, it keeps the smaller New England States from accessing one of the country's top ten media markets in Boston with an antenna while keeping cable on one guide.

    Hello, Chromecast at $35 for future streaming introductions.
     
  15. Aug 21, 2013 #35 of 123
    Grakthis

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    Has anyone pointed out yet that there are only 4 OTA channels worth watching?

    I mean, sure you have some tiny channels... but like, you can record NBC, ABC, Fox and CBS all at the same time. What are the 2 other tuners doing? Watching the public broadcast system?

    I am sure that's why no one makes a 6 channel chip. There's only 4 channels.
     
  16. Aug 21, 2013 #36 of 123
    SugarBowl

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    For me, I don't see much reason to have OTA and digital cable at the same time.

    I would have liked to have seen OTA and analog cable support. That way I could get my OTA HD and my basic cable channels without renting a cablecard.
     
  17. Aug 21, 2013 #37 of 123
    atmuscarella

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    I could have said the same for satellite when I subbed as I only watched a few channels. The reality is there are places that have dozens of OTA channels the fact you may not be interesting in the programing on them doesn't mean others aren't. I regular record from ABC, CBS, CW, NBS, Fox, & PBS and sometimes form ION and some of the PBS sub channels. Without padding I don't believe I have ever needed more than 4 tuners (I have 8 available), but there are times when I need to pad because of live events.
     
  18. Aug 21, 2013 #38 of 123
    ppartekim

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    In the Bay Area here, OTA has like 60 channels available, granted many are PBS and non-english (and some dup networks) but that still leaves 20+. All 5 (if included CW) networks, PBS and several Independent (e.g., ION, KOFY, KRON, KICU) and now several retro sub-channels (AntennaTV, Cozi, etc). There are times I do have all four of my tuners (2-S3s) recording at once or within the same 60 minute period. Absolutely, no reason to pay for cable as I have more than enough free TV to watch (or stream...if needed)..
     
  19. Aug 21, 2013 #39 of 123
    Dan203

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    I just discovered by accident that even though the local CW channel is broadcast on cable in SD you can actually pick it up OTA in HD. Apparently it's a low power station that is then rebroadcast as SD on a sub-channel of a high power station. For some reason Charter uses the SD sub-channel rather then the HD source.

    In any case I have a cheap rabbit ear type antenna and I can pick it up with about 70% power, which seems to be enough, so I reran GS on my Premiere for Cable & Antenna and set my two CW season passes (Arrow and Supernatural) to use the antenna instead.

    Since I still have about 30 channels that are analog only I have to keep the Premiere around anyway. However I never really use it directly. I typically watch everything it records via streaming on my Elite anyway. So if I replace the Elite with a Roamio then I'll have the best of all worlds.
     
  20. Aug 21, 2013 #40 of 123
    mr_smits

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    My guess: Stream capability embedded in the box vs standalone Stream box.
     

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