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Once Upon a Time - "The Stranger" - S01E20 - 4/29/2012

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by martinp13, Apr 29, 2012.

  1. Rob Helmerichs

    Rob Helmerichs I am Groot! TCF Club

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    That's actually evidence that Storybrook is in our world. To get from FTL to our world takes fairly spectacular magic...as far as we know, it's only been accomplished three times...ones with the beans and twice with the cabinet, whose magic was used up by those trips. Plus once for the curse, which apparently destroyed FTL.

    Getting from Storybrook to our world is trivial, although the curse seems to make it more difficult for FTL folk to manage. But as LooseWiring points out, the trip is made routinely.

    The curse made Storybrook a different kind of place in ways that are not entirely clear. But it IS clear that it is a different kind of place in our world.
     
  2. lodica1967

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    Thanks! I totally agree and was trying to type a response but you said everything I wanted to say. :D
     
  3. tiams

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    Storybrooke IS Fairy Tale Land. When Fairy Tale land was cursed, it became Storybrooke. The characters weren't sent to our world. In other words, if the curse were lifted, Storybrooke would fall away and they would be back in Fairy Tale Land, not some town in Maine. Storybrooke is not part of our world, it only exists because of the curse.
     
  4. oscarfish

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    That's the way it looks to me, but with two not sures. The Mad Hatter didn't use the bean or the cabinet, and do we know the curse destroyed FTL? I have been assuming that FTL was still there, but the people got moved to Storybrooke. If there was no way to get back to FTL, why would the buxom fairy want to send Emma + Snow to our world?
     
  5. tiams

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    Storybrooke and Fairy Tale Land are the same place. Fairy Tale Land was cursed.

    The only people who left Fairy Tale Land (Baelfire, Pinnochio, Emma) were sent to our world, not Storybrooke. Storybrooke didn't exist before the curse.

    Fairy Tale Land is not destroyed, it is cursed. If it were destroyed, these characters would never be able to return once the curse is lifted.
     
  6. Rob Helmerichs

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    I say "destroyed" because when they showed the curse taking effect, it looked like FTL was being wiped out. My assumption is that FTL will be recreated by the breaking of the curse.
    Wow, you must be living in some kind of fairy-tale land! :D
     
  7. lodica1967

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    We may be saying almost the same thing. I think the characters that were banished to our world by the curse will either:

    1. Return to FTL once the curse is broken
    2. Live Happily Ever After in Storybrooke
    3. Be able to leave Storybrooke
    4. Or some combination of the above based on which character we are talking about.

    We just seem to disagree on where Storybrooke is in the current story.
     
  8. oscarfish

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    This is not the way I have been thinking about it, but you could be right. You have addressed the issue of where Baelfire was between the time he used the magic bean and when the curse happened.
     
  9. martinp13

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    How do you know this? We have not seen FTL since the swirly winds in the first episode after Emma disappeared into the cabinet. It may be cursed, it may be destroyed, it may look like a hurricane went though... heck, it may not even exist. We have no idea. And we don't know if the characters will ever make it back to FTL.

    And honestly, we don't know what Storybrooke is. Between the ambiguous story of "frozen in time" and "our world", and the seeming plot holes of city buses, bosomy fairies, job interviews, bean worlds, wooden legs, and occasional magic... who the hell knows what it all is. I've kind of come up with my personal idea (I'm sure we all have), but I can't prove any of it. I disagree with tiams about 80%, but either of us could be right (or neither of us!).
     
  10. tiams

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    You don't have to make disparaging remarks about about someone just because you don't agree with them. :thumbsdown:
     
  11. martinp13

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    Well, he DID include a smiley face, so I think he was just kidding.
     
  12. tiams

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    He's a jerk. :D
     
  13. Rob Helmerichs

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    Wow, I guess there's no point engaging with you...
     
  14. lodica1967

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    This. And it's just a TV show. :D

    Debating is half the fun. (Even if you are wrong :D :D )

    That was also a joke....
     
  15. lodica1967

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    Please tell me you can see the difference in these two comments.

    Rob was teasing you within the world we were debating and you were name calling. Not cool.
     
  16. Ereth

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    Is it any wonder that Pinocchio has a hard time being brave, truthful and selfless? His father exhibits the opposite of those qualities.

    He lied to Snow and Charming in order to save Pinocchio, because he couldn't stand the thought of how hard it would be for him to lose his boy. The entire realm was at danger and he refused to save it, unless he could send the boy. A very selfish act.

    Pinocchio is just like his dad.
     
  17. photoshopgrl

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    Yes! He even said something to him about it as Geppetto was telling him to get inside the tree.
     
  18. mike_k

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    This is what I'm thinking as well. In Storybrooke, we've seen EQ's vault where she keeps the hearts. It was in the graveyard instead of in her castle, but it was the same vault. We've seen a piece of the glass coffin. There is a lot of stuff in Gold's shop from FTL. And it seems clear that Bae, Pinnochio and Emma were not sent to Storybrooke - because it didn't exist yet. I don't think that there is anyone in Storybrooke that is not from FTL. And no one, except those three, can leave - assuming Bae ever makes it to Storybrooke.
     
  19. tiams

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    And the Troll bridge became the Toll bridge.
     
  20. mike_k

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    And the old mines may or may not be the dwarf's mines.
     

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