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Oh crap, I need a new receiver!

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by vanclute, May 17, 2013.

  1. vanclute

    vanclute Member

    Aug 3, 2003
    I could use some input here as the array of choices is a little overwhelming, and I have a few specific features I'm looking for.

    So my media room TiVo Premiere has been connected (along with the rest of my A/V gear) to a Denon receiver for about 5 years and it's been great. Unfortunately it just died... so it's time for a new one.

    There are a ton of good looking options, but when I dig into the details, there are some issues I'm finding I need to be aware of. Here are the features I specifically want to make sure I have covered, in no particular order:

    1. Upscaling to 1080p of analog sources, *including the Nintendo wii over component*

    2. Network connectivity for playing music from our media library. I don't much care about wifi, hardwire is fine.

    3. Minimum 4 HDMI inputs and one output, more would be great.

    4. Minimum 2 Component inputs (which should output over the HDMI)

    5. Support for TrueHD audio & DTS, etc.

    6. 7.1 speaker support

    7. Under $400 budget

    Obviously it should play nicely with a TiVo Premiere, but also with PS3, Wii, and XBox360 (both HDMI and Component - I have two).

    All input appreciated!! :)
  2. Johncv

    Johncv Active Member

    Jun 11, 2002
    Chula Vista, CA
    You really are in the wrong forum, start here:


    You also may want to sign-up here:

  3. vanclute

    vanclute Member

    Aug 3, 2003
    Well I was really hoping to get feedback from fellow Tivo owners, in the hopes that they would be at least slightly more likely to share some of my sensibilities regarding my media setup, since Tivo is really the nerve-center of it all. I've read tons of reviews out there already (not sure why you suggested I read about iPhone speaker docks?) but they either don't discuss the specific points I need addressed, or they have pointed out failings in certain receivers (most notably the Yamaha line that can't upscale a Wii signal and some other, I forget which now, that couldn't output Component over HDMI)

    Anyway, if this is really truly just plain the wrong forum, then I guess I'll have to go elsewhere. Just prefer to stay in a forum I'm familiar with and where I've gotten useful input in the past on other things.
  4. reubanks

    reubanks Member

    Feb 19, 2006
    I'm using a Yamaha 7.1 that I got the day it was discontinued at a deep discount. (Heck, that's how I got ALL of my A/V gear!) I don't know what the equivalent would be though since it's about 5 years old.

    If you did well with the Denon, why not find the closest current model and go with that?

    On a side note, what happened to kill the old unit?

  5. vanclute

    vanclute Member

    Aug 3, 2003
    Yeah I was all set to buy a Yamaha at a pretty steep discount, then I read that it will only handle the Wii at 480i, not even 480p! Many complaints about how awful it looked.

    I've been looking at the Denons and would gladly go with one, but all the current units have gone down to only 1 Component input! :(

    The old unit suddenly died with the "Flashing Red Light of Death" which indicates an internal overload. I disconnected everything from it to make sure it wasn't speaker wires shorting. It's probably something fixable by someone with the skills & patience but I have neither. Plus, I wouldn't mind getting something a tad more current. When I bought this unit in 2009 it was already a discontinued older model, and though it's served me well all this time... I think an upgrade is reasonable at this point. I have more HDMI gear than I used to, and will undoubtedly have more over time. Plus I'm starting to appreciate the audio fidelity available with TrueHD and would love to be able to experience it in my setup. Add stuff like Network connectivity so I can play audio from my computer and upgrading is a pretty appealing thought.
  6. tenthplanet

    tenthplanet Member

    Mar 5, 2004
    There are Denon's that have two component inputs but it will boot you into the 600 dollar plus range or you could use a component switcher. If you plan to have the receiver for awhile I would make the investment.
  7. vanclute

    vanclute Member

    Aug 3, 2003
    Thanks for the Sony suggestions, unfortunately none of them are network enabled. :(
  8. vanclute

    vanclute Member

    Aug 3, 2003
    Aha... the Sony STRDN1030 looks like it's a definite candidate. I have a Bravia TV too so that would be a nice pairing. Going to look more closely at the reviews now!
  9. unitron

    unitron Active Member

    Apr 28, 2006
    semi-coastal NC
    What model number was that Denon, and exactly what kind of death did it suffer?
  10. vanclute

    vanclute Member

    Aug 3, 2003
    It's model AVR-789 and it just suddenly wouldn't stay powered up. It fires up for about 5 seconds, then powers down with a blinking red light.

    This seems to be an exact description of the problem I have, though it's a different model of receiver:


    The unit was in its cabinet where it has been since it was bought & installed, and it's rarely ever been touched in any way all that time. I did try powering it up with nothing connected just inc ase it was somehow suddenly a speaker wire short, but... no go.

    As previously mentioned, I don't have the skills nor patience to attempt to repair this, especially when it's a good 6+ years old anyway and technology is marching on.
  11. NorthAlabama

    NorthAlabama tabasco rules

    Apr 19, 2012
    sweet home, al
    i knew those suggestions were just too easy - apologies for the oversight. you're right, the sony strdn 1030 looks like it adds networking, and is still under $400.

    this is my first sony receiver of any type, and i've been impressed with the performance. the display may not be as flashy as others, but it accurately decodes every source i've come across, and has enough power to support decent quality speakers.

    the setup and configuration was a little confusing, but once it's set, you're done. i haven't noticed any signal degradation with the pass through, which, along with the power, was a big concern for me. the amp has successfully filtered all 3rd party noise, and runs as quietly as a dc amp imho.

    i wasn't even looking when i picked mine up as an impulse buy (half off during a holiday sale), and couldn't be happier.
  12. Worf

    Worf Active Member

    Sep 15, 2000
    Actually, what used to be the parent forums for the TCF would be a better reference - the AVS Forum.

    I think since you joined in 2003, your existing TCF login *should* work there as well (back when TCF was a subforum and when it split off, the user databases were kept by both sites).

    If you ask, you probably could come up with good suggestions, or if you research yourself, you can read the model-specific thread that gets created - the first pages are always of optimism of a new receiver, the last pages would have owners writing in with issues/problems/etc.
  13. vanclute

    vanclute Member

    Aug 3, 2003
    Thanks for the feedback, I didn't realize the TCF had originally been a sub forum of AVS. Interesting. Clearly I don't have reason to post a whole lot in 10 years! ;)

    I'm optimistic about the Sony, so far I haven't come across any show-stopping complaints. In general nobody loves the remote or the GUI but so what. I mostly live in the Tivo remote anyway since it's our media streamer for everything.

    Thanks all for the suggestions, much appreciated and is exactly why I posted here! :D
  14. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

    Jan 31, 2002
    Did you check out Onkyo receivers? They have some decent receivers at good prices. Although I don't know about any specifically in the $400 price range. I was looking at receivers to replace my Denon 3808 but in the end it's still working great after 5+ years and still has all the advanced features (except 3D pass through so I by pass my receiver for 3D video) I need. So I will keep it around until I have to replace it.
  15. celtic pride

    celtic pride Member

    Nov 8, 2005
    I have an onkyo 809 av receiver i use with my tivo premiere, oppo bluray ,and roku player .The av receiver is THX certified has internet music apps like rapsody,spotify,pandora ,is 3d ready and can upscale 4k! I love this receiver,when hooked up to my tivo the picture looks amazing! way better tha when just watching hooked up to my samsung B6000 55''hdtv!,also great sound on movies DTS-HD and DOLBY DIGITAL TRUE HD.I just saw this for $499.00 at audioholics .com yesterday,the original price was around $1,100.00 a year ago (although i paid $699.00!) If you can swing it $499.00 is a great price I highly recommend it!
  16. Bigg

    Bigg Cord Cutter

    Oct 30, 2003
    +1. I have an Onkyo HTIB (the S9400THX, not the crappy little HTIB's), and it's fantastic. All receivers from all brands have horrible menus and UIs. Last time I looked, $400 was right on the edge of where you get analog/upscaling.

    Also, what's your second component source? Wii is component, everything else these days is HDMI? Unless you have one of the really old XBOX 360s that doesn't have an HDMI port?
  17. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

    Apr 17, 2000
  18. kettledrum

    kettledrum Member

    Nov 17, 2003
    Fishers, IN
    Alas, the 515 only has one component input.

    I have an older Onkyo (TX-SR606) that I've used since 2009 that I've been pleased with, so I looked a little at the current Onkyo lineup for you, and it seems difficult to meet all of your specs.

    Of the current models, the TX-NR525 meets your specs except it is only a 5.2 receiver. The 626 is a 7.2 receiver but it only has one component input. Close, but not quite what you want.

    But...I think going back to the 2011 models, the TX-NR609 and the HT-RC360 appear to fit all of your requirements? Going back to even older models, there are a few others that will fit, I believe if you can still find them at your price point (or don't mind buying used) the TX-NR807, or TX-NR708 or above.
  19. poppagene

    poppagene User

    Dec 29, 2001

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