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Discussion in 'DVD TiVo Units (Archive)' started by TivoDaddy, Dec 21, 2004.

  1. Oct 6, 2008 #1801 of 2047
    patrickinstardom

    patrickinstardom New Member

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    Hey,

    Here's my story.

    For a few years I've had a Toshiba TiVo RS-TX60; I still have it but after the DVD drive almost prevented me from getting a DVD out of there, I haven't used the DVD features just so I don't have that experience again. I wouldn't be surprised if there's some sort of damage because of the many attempts I made to get the DVD out. I eventually did get it out but I forget now how I did it. The Loading screen got stuck when the dvd was in there.

    Okay, well after the DVD disaster, I never used the DVD drive again but I will comment on how useful it was and what issues I had.

    It seemed like a heavenly idea; to be able to save shows to DVD rather than VHS tapes! My family got rid of most of the VHS recordable tapes eventually. Strangely enough, we never really saved many shows to DVD, though I was impressed at the speed of the TiVo with saving shows to DVD. You see, when we had VHS tapes we didn't have TiVos; so we never really utilized the DVD feature of the Toshiba device because we could save shows to the TiVo hard-drives (we have 2 TiVos; one is a TiVo Series2 Single Tuner unit), so DVDs weren't really necessary.

    I saved some shows I wanted to keep to DVD and used the TiVo to watch DVDs (wow, two options, my DVD/VHS combo and my Toshiba TiVo DVD recorder ;) ).

    Now, however, I don't watch DVDs for fear the TiVo will not open its door and the previous disaster I mentioned above might happen again!

    I didn't like however the fact that if a show was 2 hours long, if I had chosen to record an extra minute or two to make sure the entire show would be recorded, that that would prevent me from recording to a DVD (I record shows usually at "High Quality" which is one step down from "Best Quality" and allows for 2 hours of programming). Unfortunately, 2 hours of "High Quality" for each DVD is two hours exactly; no extra minutes!

    There should have been many more settings; among them the option to cut off a minute on one end or thirty seconds on both ends of the video so it could fit on the DVD. Also, TiVo recordings seemed to take up more space on a DVD than other media would if they were being saved to DVDs. On the one hand, I do think the native conversion TiVo did for their DVD-units was a good idea because it meant the format the programming was in was already ready for DVD pretty much and therefore the burning speed was much faster. However, the codecs used or something, perhaps copy-protection meant programs took up a ridiculous amount of space.

    If only Toshiba had continued to make TiVo DVRs with DVD-recording (and Blu-Ray ;) ), they could have really improved the product with better future models, not to mention software updates for the DVD-capable DVRs that would enhance the burning experience.

    Unfortunately, the DVD-recorders with TiVo seemed to disappear as fast as they came with Toshiba's newer models having DVR and DVD burning together but without TiVo.

    Perhaps the market wasn't large enough - people didn't buy enough of the units? Or there was some pressure from studios? Or both, as well as other issues I haven't brought up.

    But I think it's a shame these products were abandoned so early. Sure, people can (with mixed success it appears from what I've read on the forums) burn shows to DVD using their computer. But this requires a program to be transferred to a computer first which takes forever! However, the Toshiba TiVos and other companies who made similar devices made the process much simpler.

    I did buy the Toshiba TiVo because it seemed to me based on reviews that this was the best device to buy. However, I'm not on any side anymore in terms of which is a better device (eg. Toshiba vs. Humax vs. Pioneer) because it has been several years since I bought it and like I've mentioned above, I can't use the DVD features anyway.

    Now, I can hardly wait to buy another new device because the newer features such as Amazon Video On Demand and TiVo's Universal Swivel Search which includes that among everything else are so slow on my device. I realize that as new devices are made by TiVo, usually they have faster and better CPUs, and the slowness is so distracting!

    Well, now I'm starting a topic that should be in a new thread. I just thought I'd share my experience with everyone else.

    I still feel bittersweet of what "could have been" in regards to better TiVo/DVD-recording hardware and software updates as well as Blu-Ray support had companies continued to make the devices.

    Oh well, maybe someone will see some potential and DVD/Blu-Ray burning capable TiVo devices will be made.
    Who knows?

    Best Regards,

    ~Patrick
     
  2. fortt3

    fortt3 New Member

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    I know this is a newbie question, but until last night I'd never used the "Record from Camcorder" feature.
    I successfully recorded 20 minutes from a camcorder using front inputs S-video and component audio. When it was finished, I expected it to switch back to using the tuner for normal TiVo operation, but pressing the "watch live TV" button on the remote or the same function on TiVo menu, shows a blank screen with a "no signal" message. I have to do a Restart to get back using the tuner normally. Is doing a Restart the only way to switch back to the tuner?
     
  3. windracer

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    You shouldn't have to restart after recording from a camcorder. It's been a while since I've done this, but I'm pretty sure it should continue to display Live TV afterwards.

    Are you using TiVo Basic, or Plus?
     
  4. fortt3

    fortt3 New Member

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    Using TiVo Plus.

    The eaxct message is "Searching for signal on Line in. " Then refers to "Messages and Settings/Troubleshooting" for more. Which the closest to my situation says to reset the channel lineup.
    So I tried resetting my channel lineup, and it did use tuner input for the screen that confirm my line up, but that forces the 20 minute "Get Program Info" session. Live TV was still getting it's signal from Front Input which I confirmed by playing the still-connected camcorder.
     
  5. Skuits

    Skuits New Member

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    Hi all, I think my RS-TX20 has bit the dust. Got home from being out of town to find it "powering up" then to the welcome screen loop. Stays in the loop and doesn't do anything else :mad:


    I was wondering if anyone had the Toshiba-Tivo image I could have use,buy...? I'd be able to copy the drive if I had the image.

    Anyone know if I can copy the image from the drive with the Tivo in this shape?

    Thanks,
    Mark
     
  6. windracer

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    Before re-imaging, have you tried just leaving it off for about 20 minutes? My TX-20 used to get stuck in the reboot loop and sometimes leaving it off (sometimes overnight) would "fix" the problem.

    If you still want to re-image, I might be able to help you out. ;)
     
  7. sledhed

    sledhed New Member

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    First I would try some or all of the kickstart procedures detailed in this forum, a couple pages back. If you can get it running again, I would then copy the drive over to a new DB35 PATA / EIDE drive...
     
  8. Skuits

    Skuits New Member

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    Hello, I did leave the unit unplugged overnight and tried again the next day. No dice, I couldn't get it to kickstart 54 either this time, or the last 6 times I tried. Just stuck in the loop with the newly added GSOD. Must be dead???

    If I can get a working image I'll be in business.




    Windracer I'd love to have a copy of an image if you have it :)


    Thanks so much!!! :D

    Mark
     
  9. robomeister

    robomeister DVD TiVo Expert

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    Also, with the DVD units, you have to make sure that there is no DVD in the drive when it restarts. I've had a couple of mine get "stuck" on the power up screen. When you remove the DVD from the drive, it started right up. But it sounds like you have gotten past the point where it tries to boot from the disc in the DVD drive.

    Good luck,
    robomeister

    P.S. I could send you an image, but I'm on a trip now and away from my configuration machine.
     
  10. DVDhurlock

    DVDhurlock New Member

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    Hi all, I think my RS-TX20 has gotten the hickups right at the welcome screen loop. Stays in the loop and doesn't do anything else


    I was wondering if anyone had the RS-TX20 Toshiba-Tivo image I could have use,buy...? I'd be able to copy the drive if I had the image.

    I try to take it apart and later found out that this forum exist. So needless to say i feel pretty dumb right now and would appreciate it if I could get the image back to get my sci-fi back in gear.
     
  11. DVDhurlock

    DVDhurlock New Member

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    Pleeze help with RS-TX20. I had taken out the HDD and reformatted it before I realize what I had done. Need image file if you can. I have read most of your post and thought you to be very knowledgeable in the TIVO field. (I wasn't trying to suck up when I said that).
     
  12. windracer

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    Not sure if you're talking to me :rolleyes: but PM sent.
     
  13. chefebe

    chefebe New Member

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    Just recently my Tivo stopped booting all the way. It says "Almost there" or something like that. I figure it must be time to upgrade the HD.

    A couple Q's:
    What is the HD type? Is it PATA or SATA?
    Is there anything special about uprading the Toshiba that is different than standard Tivo Series 2? I've upgraded 3 Tivo's so far but that was a couple years ago.

    Thanks for any tips or pointers to existing threads I missed.
    Bob
     
  14. windracer

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    PATA (regular IDE). Only the newer S3/THD boxes use SATA drives.
    Nope! If it's been a while since you did an upgrade (i.e., you used a Linux boot disk and mfstools) you might want to check out WinMFS.
     
  15. azitnay

    azitnay New Member

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    It's PATA, and no different than other Series2 upgrades... But is there a chance there's a DVD stuck in the DVD drive? That has caused bootup issues for some people.

    Drew
     
  16. chefebe

    chefebe New Member

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    Thanks. I'm planning 750GB or 1TB. From the hinsdale how-to I recall a comment about limited RAM and processor speed affecting navigation when when large drives got full. Anyone installed a big drive on these and lived to tell about it?

    Thanks for the pointer. I have a spare Linux box in a closet that was hoping to get a chance to prove its worth but this looks easier.

    Thanks -- I read this forum and tried the suggestions: turn off overnight and get DVD out. Although when I startup I can't get the DVD bay to open, I don't think this is the problem as I've not used the DVD player for awhile even when it was working.

    Bob
     
  17. azitnay

    azitnay New Member

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    If you crack the case and are thus able to get to the front of the DVD drive, you should also find a pinhole you can stick a paperclip or something similar into that will manually open the tray.

    Drew
     
  18. Dec 6, 2008 #1818 of 2047
    windracer

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    It served me well the past few years, but it was time to part ways with my TX20. With three other operational (subscribed) TiVos in the house, the Toshiba has been sitting in a closet unused for the past few months. Rather than have it continue to gather dust, I decided to "donate" it to my parents as an early Christmas gift.

    My mom was thrilled. It's going to replace/combine their old VCR (which they STILL use to record TV! :eek:) and DVD player with a single box. They're OTA only and don't really need the extra features of the Plus subscription so hopefully this box will serve them well for a while. Maybe it'll end up converting them to the TiVo Way(tm) so when they finally do go digital and HD, they'll purchase their own. I sold my old 140 box to my little sister a few years ago and she's hooked, so I'm slowly working on the rest of the family. :cool:

    I'm sure I'll still be popping up in this thread from time to time, though, if you'll have me. ;)
     
  19. Dec 7, 2008 #1819 of 2047
    tdeshler

    tdeshler New Member

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    We have two functional RS-TX20 units and I just bought a third for my mom (used). Unfortunately, I got a bum unit. I had to replace the hard drive and the DVD player doesn't work (can't get it to open and close properly, even after taking it apart). So now I have two hard drives that aren't in full working order (I had to replace another one of mine last year). I'm looking to trade those two hard drive units for a working DVD unit. Does anybody have a broken unit they are parting out? I suspect the hard drives can be repaired, but I don't know how to do it. Thanks.

    Tad
     
  20. Dec 7, 2008 #1820 of 2047
    flopmister

    flopmister New Member

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    My Toshiba rs-tx20 was locked in an endless rebooting. Third time this has happened, hard drive replaced each time by toshiba at my expense. This time I ordered the Hard Drive myself (seagate st31602-15a). How do I download the tivo os for this drive? Help I am a novice.
     

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