so you post a statement by some "salesguy" then turn up your own rumor, in the next post - then try and bail out by saying you have no proof of all the junk you just posted. Clearly you are upset because you have a DVR that does not work. I can understand that you are upset. I would be upset as well if I had a unit that did not work. but if you post conspiracies - then you are a conspiracy theorist. It is really that simple. NOTE- each quote is a separate post. You are a busy conspiracy theorist Drink Now I tried to help you by pointing you to the TTG/HME forum where there was lots of info on how to use Nero express and also free ways using directshowdump that would give you an mpeg and let you use any DVD burning software on your PC easily. Also pointed out you would have to research codecs as that was your playback problem on the PC. You chose to ignore this and instead focus on the negative again. NOTE others just tried to ignore all the negative stuff I have quoted here. I am not that way though and will call people on what they post when they post such as you have. I am sure few would think all your quotes here are the truth. Most would call it threadcrap, perhaps along with my repsonse to you as well - but if we can all tone down the nonsense we can get back to readable posts about real problems and answers. to contiunue your post it tells me nothing - in this thread are people with Toshiba DVD burner models with problems and just as many if not more without problems.