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Discussion in 'DVD TiVo Units (Archive)' started by TivoDaddy, Dec 21, 2004.

  1. Nov 16, 2005 #901 of 2047
    ZeoTiVo

    ZeoTiVo I can't explain

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    so you post a statement by some "salesguy"
    then turn up your own rumor, in the next post -
    then try and bail out by saying you have no proof of all the junk you just posted.
    Clearly you are upset because you have a DVR that does not work. I can understand that you are upset. I would be upset as well if I had a unit that did not work. but if you post conspiracies - then you are a conspiracy theorist. It is really that simple.
    NOTE- each quote is a separate post. You are a busy conspiracy theorist ;)
    Drink
    Now I tried to help you by pointing you to the TTG/HME forum where there was lots of info on how to use Nero express and also free ways using directshowdump that would give you an mpeg and let you use any DVD burning software on your PC easily. Also pointed out you would have to research codecs as that was your playback problem on the PC. You chose to ignore this and instead focus on the negative again. NOTE others just tried to ignore all the negative stuff I have quoted here. I am not that way though and will call people on what they post when they post such as you have.
    I am sure few would think all your quotes here are the truth. Most would call it threadcrap, perhaps along with my repsonse to you as well - but if we can all tone down the nonsense we can get back to readable posts about real problems and answers.
    to contiunue your post
    it tells me nothing - in this thread are people with Toshiba DVD burner models with problems and just as many if not more without problems.
     
  2. Nov 16, 2005 #902 of 2047
    CaccaMucca

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    At least we can burn without coasters. Now to figure out how to block the software updates.

    Thanks :)
     
  3. Nov 16, 2005 #903 of 2047
    MrParrish

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    I've been burning DVD's (Both Sony -R's and Fujifilm -R's ever since my last post and have had no coasters since the 7.2.1 upgrade. I did have three the day after the update.

    The only problem I've experienced lately on the 60 is it not recognizing the Fuji discs as a valid media format a couple of times, but re-insertion took care of that.

    Since then everything has burned. The Sonys are 4x and the Fuji's are 8x. I've noticed no difference in the burn time from one to the other.

    On other topics, the few company people I've encountered on these forums have turned out to be quite helpful with problems I've experienced with my Tivo2 and have even passed my information along to people at Tivo that have called me and offered immediate solutions.

    The other night when I was experiencing problems with having switched my home phones to Vonage and Tivo incompatability with that service a customer service rep on the phone from Tivo suggested the Tivo Community forums to find solutions for things that Tivo doesn't support through customer service. So they know that people are coming up with workarounds etc. I think that pretty well
    supports the fact that they don't run the forums, but they do monitor them.

    By the way, I haven't yet found a solution to the Vonage problem. Tivo 2 can be networked with the computer, but my old Tivo 1 I gave my son still has to call in and as yet I can't get it to do that with Vonage. Just a word to the wise if anyone's considering a switch.

    Mr P
     
  4. Nov 19, 2005 #904 of 2047
    DaisyChain

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    Look, Zeo, post all the snark you want in my direction - it's not about me. As I said, if someone wants to divert attention from a very legit discussion (and not even answer the points, but just make fun overall) it says all I need to know about them. You know what? At this point it amounts to trolling. This thread is about the Toshiba having problems due to 7.2, not personal flamewars. Again if you wanna start a thread about nothing but what you think of me, fine. But I tried to end this a bit ago. Fair warning you'll be wasting your time if posting to me ABOUT me, because I'm not reading such posts any longer. It's ridiculous.

    Look, if someone wants to spend their free time slagging strangers on the internet that's their business. But I don't have to read it.

    I do have to wonder why some who say they have no problem with it, waste time taking potshots at others, but that's again their business, not mine. The issue here is supposed to be 7.2 and what it caused to happen in many of our machines at home. As for our not being techo-geeks, boohoo?! Do we have to be, to deserve a working DVR? I mean what does that have to do with anything? The issue here is that 7.2 caused it not to work. All the trolling, slagging and insulting in the world doesn't change it, but keep trying. It's almost amusing - you're so earnest.

    Tivosomeone said:

    Another one who thinks this is funny or worth taking potshots at some of us. Umm, all I know is that it worked. Many of us saw it happen. But you wouldn't know about this, since yours never stopped working in the first place, right? I do have to wonder what stake some of you have in this since there's nothing here for you to discuss? Since yours never stopped working and all. You can believe we see little green men and hop on one foot to get results if you want to. Doesn't make it true, though. Nice spin though. Hmm, isn't it interesting how all the fanboys have Tivo in their user names....

    CaccaMucca - So far so good. Since 7.2.1 other than at first, it's been doing better. Haven't had any coasters since last post. Oh but we're just insane and it was all a hardware problem. We're so ignorant, aren't we?? LOL Silly us!
     
  5. Nov 19, 2005 #905 of 2047
    TiVoEvan74

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    Ah, come on... you've really mis-read my crack about jumping up and down on one foot! Re-read the post. I'm mocking the TiVo tech support advice on this problem not you all! (In both that post and an earlier one in this thread, I expressed concerns about this and asked questions about what's causing it!)

    I think it's a travesty that people have units that are turning out coasters and I cannot believe that the tech advice is such rigamarole as unplug for so many hours... with different people getting *different* number of hours as advice.. and people repeatedly being forced to do all sorts of crazy things to get their units burning again (the point is, that's like being asked to jump up and down on one's left foot 13 times!). You shouldn't have to go through all that. And then it turns out that it doesn't solve the problem in any event for many people!

    And even 7.2.1 isn't a universal fix, either, apparently!

    You're now taking potshots at the very people who, even though we've had no problems, are sympathetic to your plight and angry with both TiVo and Toshiba for not fixing what is obviously a serious, though not universal, problem (and one that is likely an interaction of software & hardware). I'd save your vitriol for them (TiVo & Toshiba) & not us!
     
  6. Nov 19, 2005 #906 of 2047
    alanpgh

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    I have had an RS-TX20 since it came to market, and I love it (even if it's not an HD recorder).

    I recently added TivoToGo via a Netgear 801.11 WiFi, and it is great! I like the link to my photos and iTunes Music folders on my PC. Is there a plan to add video streaming in the future, or is it available now through the appropriate plug-ins?

    I have some videos (MPG, MOV, AVI, WMV, DV, etc.) on my PC that I'd like to view via TivoToGo. (I can convert to almost any format.) Also, I would like to view some of the Video Podcasts that are in my iTunes folder. I know I am asking a lot. Any suggestions are appreciated!

    Thanks,
    Alan
     
  7. Nov 20, 2005 #907 of 2047
    azitnay

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  8. Nov 20, 2005 #908 of 2047
    ZeoTiVo

    ZeoTiVo I can't explain

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    I agree with all the above. Has anyone who received 7.2.1 and it did not fix the problem start demandinga in warranty RMA yet ?
    7.2.1 does not seem to be a patch for this burning issue. I asked in another thread and never got confirmation from an actual TiVo employee.

    Recent events seem to be pointing back at bad units for those with problems that got some help from just the physical aspects of applying some software. I say this because a TiVo is designed with two system partitions and your TiVo runs from one of those at a time. when any new software update is applied the TiVo applies it to the other partition and then restarts and boots from the other partition. So a patch does make for a significant physical chnage that could account for the differences in burning some are seeing.
     
  9. Nov 20, 2005 #909 of 2047
    ZeoTiVo

    ZeoTiVo I can't explain

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  10. Nov 20, 2005 #910 of 2047
    alanpgh

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    Thanks to everyone for the advice. Sorry for the double posting.

    Thanks again,
    Alan
     
  11. Nov 21, 2005 #911 of 2047
    DaisyChain

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    Evan - Ok, I'm sorry. My bad. I don't recall reading that 'tech support' had told people to unplug their TiVos. I remembered some of us stumbling across that by accident. So criticising it sounded like criticising the people who had this happen to them. All I read in the thread was that tech support said they didn't know about the issue, and/or could not advise.

    In fact it was also one of 'us' who said to sign up for the 7.2.1 patch - not one of the TiVo hoo-rahs on the message board (whoever they are in real life). So it seems like all or any help we've gotten has been due to consumers' own efforts.

    The 7.2.1 did fix the issue it seems - so it does seem to be an 'answer' of sorts. We're left wondering just what happened and why (to our burners; old and new all stopped working at the same time - after 7.2). Anyway, Evan sorry I mistook your intent. My sincerest apologies.

    ZeoTivo - do NOT carry this 'discussion' over into PMs. Bluntly put, I dont want to talk to you here, that means even less so in my personal Inbox. Kindly do not PM me again with more insulting crap. (I will only skim it at best, anyway. I did give you benefit of the doubt - unwisely - but as soon as I see another potshot at me from you - DRINK - ;) I stop reading).

    Thank you!
     
  12. Nov 21, 2005 #912 of 2047
    windracer

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    I pointed him to this thread when I saw his original question in another, non-TX20-related thread.
     
  13. Nov 21, 2005 #913 of 2047
    ZeoTiVo

    ZeoTiVo I can't explain

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    yah, I saw that after I made the post here. He was really looking for info on how to use TiVoToGo so in that other thread I was pointing him to the HME/TTG forum here. This is turning into a big place, hard to find your way around at first. :)
     
  14. Nov 21, 2005 #914 of 2047
    TiVoEvan74

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    OK, I can now directly empathize with those who are churning out unsable lumps of plastic!

    After virtually complete success burning Memorex DVD-R 8x, TDK DVD-R 8x, and Ridata DVD-RW 4x disks, today I had two TDK disks fail and one Ridata in a row-- on the same twelve 1/2 hour shows (archiving Body Electric). And I'm on 7.2.1 !!! (I did NOT have any problems with 7.2 at all on either a Toshiba or a Humax!)

    The great thing about DVD-RWs is that one can simply burn the disk again! That worked, but the TDK disks are toast. I notice that the DVD burner makes far more noise, more fan whooshing, more whatever with the TDKs than with the others, even when it is successfully burning them.

    My reaction? It's not to blame Toshiba or TiVo but myself for using 8x disks. They are not the correct ones, at least not as specified in the manual, and so I should expect failures. Fortunately, I got them on sale at Circuit City-- a 25 pack for $8 after tax. Won't be buying them again. I'm going to stick to -RWs.

    Now let's see if I can successfully burn the BEs on the 4th try with the RWs. I did burn them twice before several weeks agao--once with the Memorex and once with the TDK--in the pre 7.2.1 days.

    SUPERSTITIOUS SIDE NOTE: These were also the first consecutive disks I burned without doing my usual WAIT UNTIL the TIVO HAS finished preparing the disk and the green status bar appears, BEFORE exiting the burn screen. Instead, I exited right away and rummaged around the Now Playing menu, even deleting some things.

    I just wonder if that could have something to do with it!
     
  15. Nov 21, 2005 #915 of 2047
    jsquare

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    One simple question: Is the Black Level bug fixed with the newest update?

    I'm having such a hard time with picture quality settings ever since I replaced my old S1 with an RS-TX20 last week. The Rome series from HBO are very dark to begin with and last night was the season finale but was barely watchable.

    My setup is simple:
    Dish Network(SVideo)->RS-TX20->Sharp 55" HDTV(Component also tried SVideo)

    DVD playback seems fine, so the problem must be related with the MPEG encoder or line input levels, I was thinking of adding a video enhancer/processor between the Dish receiver and the Toshiba to see if that will make any difference.
     
  16. Nov 23, 2005 #916 of 2047
    CaccaMucca

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    I believe it has everything to do with it, just like when Tivo is recording live shows, you shouldn't burn DVDs; at least I don't do it due to higher failure rates. One of few times my Tivo crashed and rebooted on its own, I was burning DVDs and scrolling through my play list. This is why I also spectulated that Toshiba RS-TX20 was under powered.
     
  17. Nov 24, 2005 #917 of 2047
    dpz

    dpz perchance to dream

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    boo-yah

    Regarding the problems I've been reading about, at the least I'll end up with 75% more hours than I have now, replacing both my TiVo and DVD player with one less remote, and a clock display that will always be correct via TiVo Basic over my home wireless network. :up:

    $469 at Amazon - $100 gift cards - $150 rebate - free shipping - no tax = $219.

    -dp
     
  18. Nov 24, 2005 #918 of 2047
    CaccaMucca

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    I don't see them giving away a $100 gift card. $100 gift card is what you will use toward the unit?
     
  19. Nov 25, 2005 #919 of 2047
    dpz

    dpz perchance to dream

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    Citibank gave me the Amazon gift card in appreciation for my helping contribute a disturbing amount to their credit card business, so I used it per my Master Plan. Given how the 7.x software killed the Weaknees upgrade on my Series2, there was only so much of my own money I would allow myself to use for another TiVo of any sort. Someone else's money, however, no problem. :p

    -dp
     
  20. Nov 25, 2005 #920 of 2047
    bluesy

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    Hello folks,

    This is my first post here but I have read every post on my unit, the RS-TX20, before posting this.

    I've had my unit for about 8 months or so and have been relatively happy. Just one month ago I switched from basic to plus service, and I like the added features. The feature I DON"T like, that has come to bug me recently, is similar to one I've read affecting many others -- the DVD recording problem. But my problem seems a little more broad. If I put a commercial CD or DVD in the DVD drive, it isn't recognized. If I put a DVD-R or DVD-RW that I recorded some weeks back into the drive, it won't recognize those either. And finally, if I try to save a program to DVD, it never even gets started.

    In each of the above scenarios, when I insert the disk and close the drawer, it tries to load. I hear a faint mechanical sound from the drive every 5 seconds or so -- sounds like it's trying to engae the disk but not successfully. Eventually it sorta times out and it stops.

    My firmware upgraded to 7.2.1 on 13 Nov, and I recorded a few DVDs since that time, but today it all died rapidly. I've tried restsrts, power-down restarts, and am besdide myself trying to figure out what to try next.

    I see lots of notes from others plagued by flaky DVD recording since recent firmware changes, but I haven't heard anyone else say that they couldn't get a previous good disk to load. My gut tells me the DVD drive may have "burnt-out" but it still seems to be talking to the firmware at a certain level.

    So, my frantic question is -- is there anything I could try next? Has anyone else had problems getting commercial DVDs and CDs to load?

    I haven't called any tech or customer support lines yet, but that may be the next step. But there seems to be a lot of smart and sharing folks here I thought I'd talk to first....

    Any ideas??

    Larry
     

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