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Official Toshiba RS-TX Owners Club

Discussion in 'DVD TiVo Units (Archive)' started by TivoDaddy, Dec 21, 2004.

  1. Nov 7, 2005 #821 of 2047
    baltman

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    I have this system with Software version 7.2.0-elm-01-2-656 and have no problems burning my DVD's. I thought I would try this as I see everyone saying they have problems. I came home today and burned to DVD's one after the other.

    I am using the Memorex 4X DVD-R media. I even test this to make sure I could play the recording and there where no problems. This is the original system with no hacking done.
     
  2. Nov 7, 2005 #822 of 2047
    DarkShadows

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    I used the Memorex 8X recently a 50 pack spindle, I got 40 in a row then 3 coasters, then two good burns, then the system locked up again.

    It's be an on again off again deal with my unit.
     
  3. Nov 7, 2005 #823 of 2047
    DaisyChain

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    Humax machines are also having problems.

    My guess is, on the Toshiba models, some were put together at a different factory and may have slightly different parts inside, making them less vulnerable to glitches for some unknown reason. This type of thing is often subcontracted.

    An update: After bouncing around like it was possessed, I did try to make a burn later on and it burned a disc. It definitely messes up if TiVo starts recording a live show during it, though. I don't think that's what went wrong that one time it got an error (after 24 hrs. of not trying at all) but I'm not sure. Anyway, it's working again now - as long as I unplug the machine at least half an hour first.

    Of course, it could always stop again! LOL What a laborious way to have to burn discs!
     
  4. Nov 8, 2005 #824 of 2047
    Punchey

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    I'm considernig upgrading from an SD-H400 to an RS-TX20. Is there anything I should consider before doing so? As I understand it, the TX20 has darker blacks (crushed blacks) that make the image too dark. But then I've heard that for some people using Humax recorders, 7.2 fixed it. Is the same true for the TX20? And if you were me, would you make the move to upgrade?

    Thanks!
     
  5. Nov 8, 2005 #825 of 2047
    TiVoEvan74

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    I just upgraded from an SD-H400 to both a Human and Tosh DVD burning unit... definitely worth it... the infinite space afforded by the DVDs is an asset...

    Plus the extra space, especially of the RS-TX60, is wonderful!
     
  6. Nov 8, 2005 #826 of 2047
    Punchey

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    Any problems with crushed blacks and/or picture quality moving from the SD-H400 to the RS-TX?
     
  7. Nov 8, 2005 #827 of 2047
    TiVoEvan74

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    don't know what crushed blacks are... we're not particularly discriminating about picture quality having had over the air for years. We're among the group (probably a minority) who finds BASIC quality recording quite fine... and as a result gets 200+ hours of recording with our RS-TX60.

    The only thing I can tell you is that we didn't see any difference in picture quality between the two... but then again, as mentioned, it's not that big a deal to us (however, I'm sure that if there were major differences--colors way off, poor reception, scattered colored pixels, etc.--we would have seen that.)
     
  8. Nov 8, 2005 #828 of 2047
    hawks67

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    Fantastic! While I, like everyone else, feel lucky to have someone like Drew on our side, what does it say about TiVo's development and customer service when he knows more than their supposed second-level support? I mean, it's simply pathetic that I can be told by TiVo that 7.2.1 is potentially two more months away while their own site has a page allowing Series Two customers to sign up for the very same patch.

    "Frustrating" doesn't begin to cover it, but thank goodness for Drew!
     
  9. Nov 9, 2005 #829 of 2047
    Punchey

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    TivoEvan74, that's good to hear that there's no perceptible difference between the two. From what I've been told and from what I've read, "crushed blacks" is where darker areas of the picture are too dark and detail in them is lost. And from what I've heard, the overall picture on the RS-TXs is excessively dark. But if you haven't noticed this, then either you've gotten one with fixed hardware, or 7.2 fixed your problem. Because I tend to think you would have noticed it, judging from what everyone is saying.

    Thanks for your input!
     
  10. Nov 9, 2005 #830 of 2047
    TiVoEvan74

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    Well, I don't know about that! We put up with fuzzy over-the-air pictures for years and even pixelated TiVo recordings because the visual quality wasn't a high priority--and we have small TVs.

    People with larger TVs and who are more sensitive and particular about visual quality are the ones reporting the issue-- so, if I were you, I'd even start a separate thread asking for input on this very issue. You want to see if any particular folks report that the problem has been fixed!
     
  11. Nov 9, 2005 #831 of 2047
    ber

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    I haven't had a problem at all with the Toshiba pic quality....i have a 43" Sony (not HD)
     
  12. Nov 9, 2005 #832 of 2047
    ZeoTiVo

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    actually it was the TiVo Customer Service employee "TiVoJerry" who posted the priority list in the coffeehouse discussion thread in the thread titled "7.2.1 ......... " I highly reccomend reading the Coffeehouse discussion forum - it is all about TiVo and I get a lot of info from there myself.

    another employee TiVoPony had stated before that there would be no priority list for 7.2.1 - hence my advice to call in and get on the early rollout.

    This means it was a very recent decision to have the priority list so the Customer Service reps on the phone just had not gotten the official word yet that they could start to tell customers about it. I think it was all a timing issue and the fact that CSR's are told to be careful in what they say so that one voice of what will really happen goes out from the CSR center.

    the ACTUAL rollout of this at regular volume may be a month or two away but they are ready to let people who ask for it get it as a final round of "lets see how it does out on the customer base"
     
  13. Nov 9, 2005 #833 of 2047
    Punchey

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    TivoEvan74:
    I see what you mean. I actually did start a thread, but amazingly, despite all the people who've complained about the picture quality issue, not a single person has replied to that thread to say whether or not their picture quality has changed or stayed the same after 7.2.

    That's good to hear! I'm more encouraged now about taking the plunge. :) Thanks for the input.
     
  14. Nov 9, 2005 #834 of 2047
    ZeoTiVo

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    I have a Toshiba 32inch TV that I had my SD H400 on and then switched it out for the RS-TX20. I record most things at Best quality and have no problems with the picture quality, though I can see some pixellation if I look for it. It is not something that bothers me with TV shows however.


    NOTE- though that I first looked at a Sony WEGA (HD set or SD set) becasue of its good rep. but the analog cable picture being fed to either in the store looked awful. Put in a DVD though and it looked great.

    Then I looked at the Toshiba (Non HD) I did buy and the analog cable on it looked great as it did a much betetr job with the colors, had a real depth of color to it, and the filters on the TV were optimized for SD. A DVD played on it looked great as well to me though it suffered from only being interlaced.

    anyway I bough the Toshiba to get a MUCH better SD picture and gave up a littel bit on the DVD picture for it.

    I submit that the person's TV/method of hook up may play a major role in how noticeable the crushed blacks and other imperfections are
     
  15. Nov 10, 2005 #835 of 2047
    Punchey

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    Thanks for the feedback! So you would say that you didn't notice any TiVo quality difference between the SD-H400 and the RS-TX20? The thing I've been hearing is that in settings below Best, and possibly High, result in an almost unwatchable picture in dark scenes. Or at least those are the complaints. I never know just how much salt to take with such complaints though.

    So do I take it from what you were saying that the DVD playback quality on the SD-H400 is better than on the RS-TX20? Or did I misunderstand?

    All in all, with the great feedback from you guys, I'm leaning toward going for the TX20. Thanks again!
     
  16. Nov 10, 2005 #836 of 2047
    ashu

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    I have a TX20 AND a SD-H400 connected to the same TV via a receiver. I ran out of component switching inputs on the receiver, so my SD-H400 is SVideo connected (although the receiver then upconverts it). The same show waatched on the two units
    a. TX20-component-receiver-component-SD Flat screen JVC TV
    b. SDH400-SVideo-receiver-upconverted_component-SD Flat screen JVC TV

    ALWAYS has a looking better. Of course, I've introduced a possibly flawed Component upconversion into the pipeline, but the gist is - on a 27" SDTV (the best out there), the TX 20 is just fine.

    Lest I forget, I record almost everything (but sports/cartoons - High) in Medium Quality. NOTHING at Best!
     
  17. Nov 10, 2005 #837 of 2047
    CaccaMucca

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    My Toshiba images were darker than the same images through my VCR.
    I'd compare it switching back and forth using my receiver. One day I decided to try a Monster cable and replaced the existing ones connecting up to my Toshiba. You guessed it, the pictures were as bright as my VCR. No more dark pictures, no more crushed blacks.

    For those having issues with any display images with any video devices, try these 3 things:

    1. Try replacing the cable with a quality one, ie. Monster Cable.

    2. If you are going through a receiver or sort, try a different port. If you have it going into VCR1, try VCR2 or the VIDEO.

    3. Try plugging into your TV directly and bypass your receiver. Maybe it is your receiver or some unknown adjustment features that you don't know about.
     
  18. Nov 10, 2005 #838 of 2047
    ashu

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    PLEASE don't say MONSTER and QUALITY in the same sentence, unless you're using the adverbs OVERPICED and BAD as well :)

    Monster is a load of overpriced crud. Nothing more.
     
  19. Nov 10, 2005 #839 of 2047
    Punchey

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    Thanks to the both of you for the added input!

    ashu:
    It is good to know that you see good quality even at Medium. If you dislike Monster cables (I also think they are very highly priced), what cables do you recommend that are affordable?

    CaccaMucca:
    This is a very interesting testimonial. I'll definitely keep it in mind if I notice any problems with the brightness of the unit. However, according to some old threads I read, someone hooked up some equipment to the outputs of these units and found that the black level output is at 0. I don't have any idea what that means, but according to those in the thread, that was too low and it's supposed to be some higher value. So according to them, the problem was coming from the unit itself. But then later, someone said that 7.2 fixed a similar problem on their Humax. So I thought maybe it was something in the software.

    But now if you fixed the same problem by changing cabling, that's really puzzling. But good information nonetheless. I will keep it in mind. thanks again!
     
  20. Nov 10, 2005 #840 of 2047
    ber

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    I have not yet got 7.2.1- hopefully soon since i filled out the priority request in the link Drew provided....Once anyone gets the upgrade- i would certainly appreciate some feedback on whether it addressed successfully the problems with DVD burning.
     

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