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Discussion in 'DVD TiVo Units (Archive)' started by TivoDaddy, Dec 21, 2004.

  1. Jun 28, 2005 #301 of 2047
    jdean5

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    I'm close to getting the Toshiba RS-TX20 and have been reading some old posts on here. Forgive me if I'm asking something that may have been answered before, but some of the posts were old and perhaps there have been updates.

    My first question is: For this model, if I transfer existing saved shows from my current Series 2 Tivo, will I be able to record to a DVD? I saw in previous posts that there had been a compatability issue and this was not possible? To anyone's knowledge has it been addressed (or will it never be a possiblity)? I guess if I can't "DVD record" what I have saved currently, I may as well just increase the hard drive or get a regular 2nd unit? It's disappointing to think I can't archive what I have to DVD...I won't go the old videotape route...too spoiled now.

    Also, I saw that the Pioneer DVD recorder had an accelerated record transfer time while the Humax is in real time. Anyone know what the Toshiba record time is?

    Thanks in advance for any input!!
     
  2. Jun 28, 2005 #302 of 2047
    Chmeeee

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    As far as I know, there is still no way to record transferred shows onto DVD.

    As for recording time, I have only made one DVD so far, and it took under 30 minutes to burn a disc with 4 - 1 hour shows on it (medium quality). I was pretty impressed.
     
  3. Jun 28, 2005 #303 of 2047
    ashu

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    You can record transferred shows to DVD by TiVoToGo-ing them to your PC ;) But, yes, not on the Toshiba (or any other TiVo/DVDRecorder) unit.

    If saving your old shows is critical, yeah, get a larger drive in an existing TiVo. I recommend TTG and burning there. You can also use the front inputs on the Toshiba, record the shows from the old TiVo as a Manual, external source recording, and burn them. You have to do the recording in real-time, though (obviously).

    This initial inconvenience is minor when weighed against future convenience. I am quite well-versed with PC-video massaging, DVD authoring etc - but ever since I bought my Humax, it's the ONLY way I archive TV shows (I plan ahead and record archive-worthy suff on the Humax and not other TiVos). I also don't use my PC nearly as much to dump DV tape from my camcorder. The Humax makes incredible DVDs from High/Best quality DV dumps!

    Burn speed:
    The Toshibas and Humaxes use Pioneer DV-108Z drives, theoretically capable of DualLayer 4X and Single Layer 8X burning. Shortly after I bought my Humax (12/04), it downloaded a new firmware version (1.15) for the drive and now finishes 4 hour medium quality burns in around 17 minutes! As do the Toshiba RS's.

    Make sure you use good DVDs. Crummy DVDs will fail when burnt at high speeds (esa, LiquidVideeo et al). TaiyoYuden 8X DVDs seem to burn at 4-8X consistently. Often sold as Madi in Japan Memorex/TDK/Fuji DVD-R! The made in Taiwan ones are also decent - 4X with high reliability.
     
  4. Jun 28, 2005 #304 of 2047
    Brainiac 5

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    Unless I'm mistaken (someone tell me if I am), you cannot even burn shows transferred from another DVD recorder TiVo. This seems to indicate that the problem is not just technical - for whatever reason they just don't seem to want you to be able to do this (even though you could burn the same recordings to DVD using TiVoToGo).
     
  5. Jun 28, 2005 #305 of 2047
    jdean5

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    I recommend TTG and burning there. You can also use the front inputs on the Toshiba, record the shows from the old TiVo as a Manual, external source recording, and burn them. You have to do the recording in real-time, though (obviously). This initial inconvenience is minor when weighed against future convenience.


    Thank you for all the input; I really do appreciate it. A new dilemma: I was thinking of getting just a DVD recorder. I saw on other posts that you can hook up to the Tivo unit just as you would a VCR and then "Save to VCR" (but really it would be saving to a dvd). The price for a regular DVD recorder is a bit more friendly but I still think I"d rather have everything in one unit.

    It seems I do have some options I did not know about; TIVO, TO GO for instance. So I can save to my computer and then burn on a DVD? Obviously my computer would have to have a DVD-RW? Sorry if it's a stupid question.

    But, I think the one that really has me leaning toward going with the Toshiba TIVO is the fact that I can plug in my existing Tivo to the front of the Toshiba and record that way. It's really the same as if I got a plain DVD recorder (records in real time) but like you said the initial inconvenice would be minor. Just to clarify, my existing Tivo Series 2 would hook up to the front of the new Toshiba TIVO , I would record it as "new" to the unit, then transfer to DVD?
     
  6. Jun 28, 2005 #306 of 2047
    ashu

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    Your TTG interpretation is fine. And you'll learn more details once you start using it.

    As for your choice/decision - that's between you, your perception and value of your free time, and your wallet. Can't help with any of those :) (although I'd happily lighten your wallet if offered ;) )
     
  7. Jun 28, 2005 #307 of 2047
    jdean5

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    Ha. I need every cent for my new TIVO. Was I on target about using the front jacks on the Toshiba to transfer and then burn to DVD's? Have you heard any stories (good, bad) about using a non-tivo DVD recorder to recorder off the unit?
     
  8. Jun 29, 2005 #308 of 2047
    zhelder

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    Hi everyone. I just purchased an RS-TX20 unit, taking advantage of the great deal at Best Buy. I haven' t hooked it up yet, because I'm trying to figure out the best way to hook up my unit. I am going to hook the unit up to a relatively old 27" Sony TV. (One set of composite A/V inputs, one s-video input). I have a Hughes Directivo unit hooked up to this set (secondary unit) and a Panasonic VCR with two sets of composite A/V jacks. I have basic cable on the set as well, but if possible I would like to keep the Directivo unit hooked up to the TV and use the RS-TX20 in conjunction with the Directivo unit, since I get many more channels on DirecTV. Can the RS-TX20 change channels on the Directivo unit and use the Directivo unit as a tuner? Also, any suggestions on how to hook up the RS-TX20 to work in conjunction with the Directivo unit while keeping the VCR hooked up? Thanks for any info!
     
  9. Jun 30, 2005 #309 of 2047
    orion27

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    I have a question about the TX20. I just set mine up yesterday and started the 45 day Plus trial. It then said 6 days remaining in the messages so I called Toshiba and they said it would have the full 45; the counter sometimes mis-displays the time left on that model.

    I was looking at the things one can do with the Plus service, including Online scheduling. Is there a way to try that feature during the trial? It seems I need to activate the Tivo, but to do so I would have to subscribe, which I don't want to do, at least not yet.

    Also, when a scheduled record is about to start, it pops up the box asking if I want to switch to that channel. Is there a way to disable the question and just have it switch automatically?

    Thanks.
     
  10. Jun 30, 2005 #310 of 2047
    ashu

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    zhelder: you, sir, are a prime candidate for someone to say "read the manual" to. No offense. You've missed the point of a TiVo. It can only 'tune' over the air or basic cable. Anything encoded/encryped (satellite box, cable box) is sent to it as a video signal, and it controls (and TAKES OVER) channel changing on said box. (Once your TiVo is set up) You can throw away your satellite/cable box remote. So I'll say it "Read the manual".

    orion27: online scheduling etc - onlly for valid, registered accounts. I guess it cross-references their internal account-holder database and their channel preferences. A tril is probably not registered the same way. I doubt you can disable that popup - but its default action is to go ahead and change channels to make the recording anyway.
     
  11. Jun 30, 2005 #311 of 2047
    Tpfer

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    ashu: you sir might want to know what you are talking about before you start slamming people.

    I also got a toshiba since I wanted to transfer some dv to dvd quickly. I have 4 directv boxes and I have hooked up the to toshiba to a directivo unit. the regualr tivo comes with IR cable that changes the channels on the Direvtv unit. I can also set it up to a non-tivo dtv unit and record from satellite.
     
  12. Jul 1, 2005 #312 of 2047
    ashu

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    caught me napping there, tpfer - I speed-read the question and assumed it was about a regular (non dtivo) directv box. apologies to zhelder.

    The manual would still be handy, eh ;)

    And tpfer - define 'slamming' While you're at it, define 'misinterpretation" :D
     
  13. Jul 1, 2005 #313 of 2047
    ZeoTiVo

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    well you got the answer on using the IR balster (does serial cable work to a Hughes?) to control the DirectTiVo and I assume it has composite out you can hook to the composite in on the TX20. Never had a DirectTiVo or DirectTV so this is only my assumption. The manual for both units will have the details ;)

    as for the VCR, since I am assuming the DirectTiVo can hook up to the composite in on the TX20 -
    then you can bring basic cable and hook it to the VCR first and then hook the VCR via COAX to the TX20 and then COAX out from the TX20 to the TV. I would use the svideo input on the TV for the DirectTiVo as it has the digital source.
    Also hook composite out on the TX20 back to the VCR so you can do the "save to VCR" if wanted.
    If you want to watch a tape from the VCR then you need to put the TX20 into standby so the VCR will pass through to the TV from coax. Check the manual on passthrough on the TX20


    personally i would take the VCR out of the picture and just use the DVD recorder to make and play DVDs.
     
  14. Jul 2, 2005 #314 of 2047
    jdean5

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    Component Video Hook Up Question

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    Ashu,

    I posted this elsewhere...maybe you have some answer? Any one else ? Greatly appreciated...thanks!


    My new Toshiba arrived yesterday and hook up went great...except... I'm hoping someone has had some experience with component cables and can help me out.

    My old DVD player was hooked up with Component cables to my TV (my tv has component cable inputs). The difference with component cables was really great...the clarity when I would watch DVD's was awesome. In my old set up I'd have to switch my TV channel from SVHS (which is what Tivo feeds thru on my TV) to CVI (the channel my tv feeds thru for my DVD player).

    So, today after hooking up all cables...including the component cables and audio cable (S Video Cable) from the Toshiba DVD recorder to the TV, as I did with my previous stand alone DVD player, I encountered this problem: No audio on the CVI channel. The DVD video and audio come thru on the SVHS channel and in flipping back and forth between channels, I notice that the CVI channel's quality is slightly better, and of course I'd like to continue to use my component video feed.

    I called Toshiba and some nasty man (who was trying his best to be polite) first told me my audio hookup was wrong, but I simply have the audio coming out of the Toshiba TIVO, back into my TV...I think that's correct. He said he really couldn't help me because he wasn't familiar with my TV (a Phillips). He said if it was a Toshiba TV he could tell me exactly what to do.

    Anyone have any input? Thanks a lot!
     
  15. Jul 2, 2005 #315 of 2047
    windracer

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    It sounds like you haven't connected any audio cables (red/white) or TOSlink (optical). You mentioned S-Video for "audio" but S-Video only carries video. You'll still need to connect the red/white cables to your TV input, or the optical to your receiver (or TV, if it supports it).

    It sounds like you're using both video outputs at the same time: one to the "DVD" input of your TV, and one to the CVI. But there's only one set of composite audio jacks, so you'll either need a splitter, or connect the composite audio to DVD (like you've got) and use the optical for the other.
     
  16. Jul 2, 2005 #316 of 2047
    jdean5

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    Hey ...thanks so much for your input.

    I do have red/white cables going from to my tv input, from the tivo dvd player.

    In my case, the "DVD" input IS the "CVI". In my stand alone DVD hookup before, the DVD fed through the CVI channel. You are definitely right that it seems I have two video outputs going on. The SVHS output is for TIVO and with my old hookup the CVI output was for DVD. I still have both outputs now but can't figure out where my wires are going wrong to have no audio on the CVI channel.

    I have three connections. They are:

    1) Component on DVD/TIVO to Component on TV

    2) OUT: Audio R, Audio L (red, white), S Video on DVD/TIVO to IN: Audio R, Audio L (red, white) S Video on TV

    3) IN: Audio R, Audio L (red, white), S Video on DVD/TIVO to OUT: Audio R, Video L ,S Video on Cable Box.

    It worked on my last unit but somewhere along the way here I"m going wrong.
     
  17. Jul 2, 2005 #317 of 2047
    windracer

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    But the problem is you only have audio cables going to a single input on the TV (SVHS) but have video going to both (SVHS and CVI). That's why there's no audio on the CVI input.

    I think the confusion here is that you don't need two separate video outputs for the TX20 ... it doesn't matter if you're watching TiVo or a DVD, there's a single video signal from the DVR.

    So, what I think you need to do is run the component video cables and a set of red/white audio cables from the back of the TX20 to a single input on your TV (component jackset on your TV should also have audio jacks). Then, you watch both DVDs and TiVO on the same TV input ... no need to switch inputs to watch a DVD or TV.

    Basically, combine #1 and #2 you have listed ... no need for S-Video anymore. Your cable box to TiVo setup is fine.

    I may still be confused, but that's how I've integrated my TX20 into my setup. The only difference is I also run a TOSlink optical cable to my receiver so I can use surround sound when watching DVDs.
     
  18. Jul 2, 2005 #318 of 2047
    jdean5

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    That literally took me 5 seconds...and it worked!!! Thanks a million!
     
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    windracer

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    Always glad to help!
     
  20. Jul 3, 2005 #320 of 2047
    SpikeyMikey

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    I haven't been able to locate an answer to iml84myd8s' second question: Can the DVD recorder burn the Dolby Digital 5.1 audio?
     

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