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Official Toshiba RS-TX Owners Club

Discussion in 'DVD TiVo Units (Archive)' started by TivoDaddy, Dec 21, 2004.

  1. Dimitri

    Dimitri New Member

    Apr 11, 2011
    Please tell me there is a way to make a Toshiba SD-H400 record DVD's.....
    I picked one up and now I see in the manual it says DVD player....
    I have been asking and trying to find the next best answer to the Humax DRT400 and I did not seem to get a good answer on that one and asked another person that had said before they had units for sale what they could hook me up with and I got no reply to that, so I got this, I did not think there were any with a DVD in it that did not record!
    I have not hooked it up yet, it just came today, already have to send back the Magnavox DVD recorder I got so I need something to record DVD's on.

    I had stated before I just need something that will basically do what the Tivo was before, If this does not record DVD's now I am going to be extremey pissed for the 3rd time over this, the Magnavox thing is yet another on top of that, it arrived damaged by UPS and they are supposed to pick it up, I pieced it together and made display contacts touch enough to use it for a while actually(face was busted clean off by side impact of what looked like it was dropped off the height of the dock and it busted loose 3 contacts on the display, imprint in the inside of the box thru popped bubble wrap).

    Just had with about everything jacking me and screwing me and going wrong anymore.

    Dang ReplayTV I get and then they decide to quit, perfect wrong everything.

    This is just this segment of the nightmare of how it all has been going and I am tired.

    Now what the heck am I going to do with the ReplayTV thing and yet another Tivo that is not going to do what I want?

    I can't afford this crap happening.

    Someone trade me Tivo that is what I am looking forin exchange for an SD-H400 with Lifetime Basic and a working DRT-400? (needs sub).
    would have to work out value.

    Any mod for SD-H400 to put in recorder?
    At wits end... yet again(with a half-hearted lol).
    Mr. no luck but bad.
  2. robomeister

    robomeister DVD TiVo Expert

    Feb 4, 2005
    Beltsville, MD

    Prepare to be extremely pissed. You have found the one and only TiVo/DVD combo that does not burn DVDs. In addition, it uses a proprietary DVD player which cannot be replaced by standard DVD burners. In other words, it will never ever ever burn a DVD.

    Just FYI, here is a list of all TiVo/DVD combos devices in approximate order of release:

    Toshiba SD-H400 -- TiVo and DVD player, 80 GB drive, TiVo Basic
    Pioneer DVR-810H-S -- TiVo and DVD burner, 80 GB drive, TiVo Basic
    Pioneer DVR-57H -- TiVo and DVD burner, 120 GB drive, TiVo Basic
    Toshiba RS-TX20 -- TiVo and DVD burner, 120 GB drive, TiVo Basic
    Toshiba RS-TX60 -- TiVo and DVD burner, 160 GB drive, TiVo Basic
    Humax DRT-400 -- TiVo and DVD burner, 40 GB drive, requires subscription
    Humax DRT-800 -- TiVo and DVD burner, 80 GB drive, requires subscription

    That's it. They are all considered TiVo Series 2 models, so they only have one NTSC tuner and only record Standard Definition (SD) TV signals. TiVo Basic gives you a three day guide so you can record without a paid subscription, but you can't create Season Passes or Wishlists.

    I would recommend the Toshiba RS-TX20 or RS-TX60. They have TiVo Basic and have DVD writers that are easier to replace. The Pioneers are extremely picky on what DVD writer they contain, but they have the best picture quality, IMHO.

    Hope that helps you decide,
  3. Dimitri

    Dimitri New Member

    Apr 11, 2011
    Thanks Robo,

    That is always my luck... I end up accidently picking the only one that does not have a burner... the odds of all going how wrong it goes seems less than the chances of winning the lottery, things happen that are nearly impossible when it is going to cause me a problem but not when it may do good... Just friggin crazy, a computer taking in this data would trip and pop a cap saying this is just not possible, the odds do not compute. LOL. Grr...

    I wish I would have had the info before.
    I wish I had never seen that Dang Tivo, It started all this, I was just gathering data for putting together a small media computer to do my recording stuff with when we picked up the Tivo, they said it recorded etc, I knew nothing really about them before, don't even remember anyone else I knew ever having one. I said cool, this could be better in the fact that it will probably use less power(trying to cut costs), and I won't have to figure out a software solution.
    If I put the money I spent on these things to the computer instead, I would have been done with it way before now and been much happier, now I am outta funds to spend on this and nowhere with it all.
    Been taking care of GrandPa who has recently gone about senile, thinks he is on the ship in the Navy again sometimes etc. He was a SeaBee(in C.B.) during WW2! And I musta got distracted cuz he has been asking me things often that often don't make sense, I was totally checking specs and narrowed down ones I was looking at, I don't know how this one even got in my sights.
    Need to try to get my money back on these, unfortunately I am going to lose on shipping I spent.
    Ach du lieber Himmel!
    Take care and Thanks again RoboMeister!

    Duh Mee Tree
  4. Chaufa

    Chaufa New Member

    Jun 29, 2011
    I need help replacing the hard drive of my RS-TX20 (my hard drive started clicking last week). I already bought a new PATA drive with 320 GB and I download an image for the RS-TX20 that somebody posted in another thread.

    Now what?... I read about the "boot disc" before installing the image from MFSLive. But I don't understand... I am a little ignorant in the topic. I know that I could get a hard drive with the driver installed but it was too expensive for me.

    Can somebody explained to me step by step what do I need to do with the new Hard Drive?...

    thank you in advance.

  5. Dimitri

    Dimitri New Member

    Apr 11, 2011
    Try this link, seems to have instruction for all of them, step by step with option branching.
    Have only redone a ReplayTv drive a few times which they made so easy, have not tried Tivo which seems like they tried to keep it nerdy, I was able to do my Replay drive right in XP without need for Fat partition to work with.
    To others out here, can't you just use a good drive imaging program to image/clone over to another drive? might need Sector by Sector copy, possibly use Acronis or Easeus? Seems like logically you should be able to unless they have done something on purpose just to make it difficult, these things seem like they could have made em a little more friendly.
    Linux is an odd operating system to me, I have been triple booting my laptop for well over a year with XP Pro, Win 7 Pro, and Linux Mint and I have to say the command names and things you have to go thru just to do things in Linux is weird, I grew up using computers Before there was any Windows, used Dos proficiently and even modified the Command Proccessor, (You had to Low-Level format the MFM or RLL drive to the specific controller back then), the commands made more sense,
    Linux has odd names for stuff... Like Grep(sounds like a disabled person), TOUCHing a file or whatever(sounds quaint, does it like it?), BASH, what I wanted to do to the Tivo that would not cooperate and to people who just have to make things a pain or mess with others. RSYNC(Retired members of the band NSYNC?), SSH(Be quiet), TAR(Don't step in that!), AWK(what you say after you stepped in the TAR), APT-GET(when you need a place to live but ca't afford a house), CHOWN(I was really CHOWN down on that Stew), EGREP(an Email from a disabled person), GAWK(Stop looking at me th way!), HASH(good with eggs, just don't get the illegal kind(yes I know what a HASH is.)), and on... LOL.
  6. unclepoo

    unclepoo New Member

    Feb 9, 2007
    I ditto robomeister's suggestion, that you get one of the
    Toshiba RS-TX series tivo units
    They do have the three day guide, of course no wishlist etc.. but if you are trying to stay away from monthly fees. I have both and they are great units
    They also have the ability to control a box to change a channel for you
    (cablebox, DishNetwork or DirectTV, and possibly a Digital converter box)
    They do write DVD's nicely (DVD_R) and you get a tivo menu on the burnt DVD.
    Theoretically (I haven't tried this, but imagine it would be possible)
    they could control a digital tv converter box and if they have the guide available for digital broadcast you could use it, otherwise you could use one of the other guides available and remap a channel to the appropriate channel on the converter box.
    Things do go bad, but the most common failure of these units is eventually you'll need to replace the hard drive. Weaknees and others do sell upgrade kits
    If you don't need High Definition, you want to write DVD's (DVD_R) and have no monthly fee for your DVR one of the Toshiba RS-TX series tivo's is the way to go.
    usually you can find it, just do an ebay search on RS-TX and include the description and you can find it.
  7. Dimitri

    Dimitri New Member

    Apr 11, 2011
    Thanks Uncle, I was looking at those and an offering i saw from Panasonic of a DVD-R/DVR with a guide.

    I don't know how I ended up getting what I did, been a lot of distractions, my GrandPa is with us now cuz he is getting too forgetful etc... I must have added it to watch when I meant not to and then when I got back into checking them, it was about up and I bid on it without really checking further, I WAS only watching things that had DVR with DVD recorder.

    Want to trade one for a HUMAX DRT-400 & cash? :)
    I may have eventually gotten a sub on the DRT had it kept going(If I only had NOT gotten into setup), once I could afford it if I liked it enuff.

  8. Bimwad

    Bimwad New Member

    Jul 4, 2005

    This thing on?

    Surprisingly, I was just able to revive my FrankenToshiba after it sat collecting dust for more than a couple years. After a power outage, it had stalled mid-boot with a clicking noise, seemingly indicating that the drive was toast.

    Didn't particularly feel like messing around with old PATA drives, or fitting it into a then forced newly-digital cable setup, so I left it alone.

    I finally got around to removing the drive, and after connecting it to a computer, saw that it still spun up and responded. With nothing to lose, i zeroed it out, restored the TiVo software, and it lives again. For how long, who knows, but it works.

    The picture looks surprisingly decent on a large HDTV. I guess I'll keep it around as long as it still functions, but with modern networked media boxes, even DVRs seem passé.
  9. JWGdesign

    JWGdesign TiVo Addict

    Jan 9, 2012
    Massachusetts, USA
    Hello, all.

    I'm new to the TiVo Community forums, though I have learned much from reading various posts over the last few years, ever since becoming interested in TiVo.

    My latest TiVo acquisition is a Toshiba RS-TX20. I guess this qualifies me for the RS-TX Owners Club.

    I got it used from eBay. It arrived in a "factory default" mode, so the previous owner must have done a Clear & Delete Everything before shipping it to me. Other units I've purchased used arrived ready to use, which let me test out the unit before committing to a Repeat Guided Setup operation.

    Guided Setup got as far as getting program info, then got stuck "Preparing" for a long time. Numerous reboots did not help, nor did letting it stay at "Preparing" for 12+ hours. It would never progress any further. Various Kickstart Codes got the thing stuck in an endless GSOD-reboot loop.

    Thanks to TahoeJoe, Kasmiur and windracer, I was able to download a backup image for my RS-TX20 and get the drive reformatted with an old PC I had kicking around. (I have been a Mac Addict for 20 years, so having access to a PC seems unlikely.) Once the re-imaged drive was returned to the Toshiba, everything has been working flawlessly. So, big thanks to TahoeJoe and Kasmiur for providing the backup image, and thanks to TiVo Community for providing the means to share experiences amongst fellow TiVo users.

    One thing to note about the RS-TX20... the picture does not seem to be as sharp as the Pioneer 810. The Toshiba seems a little soft. The Pioneer did have weird flickering macro block artifacts though... mainly where graphics overlays abutted video, such as news broadcasts or football games. The Toshiba doesn't seem to have that problem at all.
  10. sledhed

    sledhed New Member

    Aug 29, 2005
    Welcome! This thread does not see much activity. We love our TX20, expanded to a 320GB drive when the original died. Have a S2 dual tuner in the bedroom too, and do room to room transfers all the time. The TX20 guide and menu are pretty slow though compared to the S2 dual tuner. Wish we could do the same setup with hidef, but dish network and tivo only play well together in standard def... no cable here, only alternative is directv, and we are not willing to pay 3x the price for hidef and still lose our tivo (we are grandfathered in on the older dish family lineup, which gets us pretty much everything we want). Suppose we could try to talk dish into upgrading our receivers to a dual-tuner dvr hidef unit, but just have not done the research to determine if it would meet what we want to do (occasionally we also want to save programs to DVD or a video file of some sort which we transfer to PC for editing using TiVo desktop)...
  11. redamw

    redamw New Member

    Jan 8, 2013
    I have the RSTX 20 and believe the hard drive failed. I do not have an image.
    Does anyone?
    Also, last time a hard drive went in one of my tivo's I was able to buy a imaged drive off of ebay but these do not seem to be very popular anymore.

    What software is the best to apply the image?

    How large of a hard drive can I add, what brand works best?

    Any help would be greatly appreciated.
  12. hardly

    hardly New Member

    Sep 4, 2008
  13. mckennis

    mckennis New Member

    Mar 10, 2013
    My sis was gonna toss her RS-TX20. Long story short, I'm usually pretty good but I can't find this image anywhere. Would somebody please help me out?
  14. MrZarf

    MrZarf New Member

    Nov 26, 2006
    I have a copy of an image distributed here by tahoejoe and Kasmiur, from back in 2010, if you don't find one elsewhere. It's 289,977 KB and is a WinMFS image of a 160 GB hard drive for the Toshiba RS-TX20 (so you will need at least a 160 GB hard drive).

    Let me know if you're interested, and we'll try to find a way to get it to you.
  15. mckennis

    mckennis New Member

    Mar 10, 2013
    MrZarf, you are the best! I've been looking forever. Now I just gotta find a 160gb ide lol. Of course I have the original 120gb.

    Still doing well thanks to you!!!
  16. unclepoo

    unclepoo New Member

    Feb 9, 2007
    Private Message Sent
  17. drkside

    drkside New Member

    Mar 23, 2013
  18. MrZarf

    MrZarf New Member

    Nov 26, 2006
    A couple of PMs sent...
  19. fuzzynavel

    fuzzynavel New Member

    Apr 16, 2013
    Hello All!!!

    I have an opportunity to purchase an RS-TX60 from a local thrift shop. Since the unit has been in the shop for so long, they allowed me to hook it up to a television to verify that it worked. While testing the unit, I checked the System Info screen and noticed the TiVo Account Status stated "Product Lifetime Service".

    From what I understand, the previous owners could have transferred the lifetime service to another TiVo box rendering the RS-TX60 in need of a subscription. Unfortunately I did not write down the TiVo Service Number, otherwise, I could confirm this with TiVo. But being it is a Toshiba RS-TX60, it was originally advertised with built-in TiVo Basic offering a free 3-day programming guide.

    I spoke with a TiVo customer rep last year (when I first noticed the machine in the shop) and she stated something like that (TiVo Basic) is no longer supported, although she did sound somewhat bewildered at the mention of TiVo Basic.

    So my first question is, does anyone know if TiVo still honors/supports the free 3-day programming guide for RS-TX machines? In other words, if I repeat the guided setup, will the TiVo mothership force me into a paid subscription in order to get any use of the machine beyond that of a door stop?

    And my other question is, since the box still "thinks" it has Lifetime Service, as long as I don't connect, can I still use the unit to manually record shows (although no programming info will be available), use the 30 minute live tv buffer, etc.??

    Many kind thanks for your response.

    ~ Fuzzy
  20. shwru980r

    shwru980r New Member

    Jun 22, 2008
    The Tivo Basic service still works and it never expires. The tivo will revert back to Tivo Basic if the lifetime service is no longer valid. You will still be able to use the Tivo either way and will not have to pay a subscription fee.

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