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Official TiVo HD thread

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by MickeS, Jul 24, 2007.

  1. Sandlapper

    Sandlapper New Member

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    Refresh my memory, isn't eSATA just something to do with HDD's?
     
  2. robmfielding

    robmfielding New Member

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    I just ordered a Tivo HD from Best Buy and was told by a Tivo Rep that the grandfather lifetime transfer is eligible if is bought from a retailer. He said if you buy the Tivo HD from Tivo directly it was not being offered. He in fact put a note on my account regarding it and said they would have to give it to me when I called back.
     
  3. dolfer

    dolfer Myles Standish Proud

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    Yes, eSATA let's you easily add an external hard drive to your Tivo without cracking the case or doing any hard core hacking.

    There is an easy hack that let's you activate the eSATA port on the Series3. However, apparently, this hack does not work on the Tivo HD.
     
  4. Teledatageek

    Teledatageek New Member

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    Update......

    So, I call Tivo and basically I'm hosed because I canceled my account on the S2. Seems like they would cut me a little slack and let me reactivate but they won't.

    The rep also said that MSD does not apply to units purchased from Tivo direct and suggested I buy one from BestBuy, Circuit City, etc.

    While I'm talking to her, I log into my Tivo.com account and it says that I AM eligible for MSD when buying the unit from Tivo.com. Of course to get the rate of $6.95, I have to commit to three years. Pre-paid does not quality as you state. The rep had no idea what I was talking about and still encouraged me to buy from a retailer to get the MSD. Seems dumb to me as I'm sure Tivo makes more $$ on the sale of direct units.....
     
  5. dvr4me

    dvr4me New Member

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    Just an FYI that my order from Best Buy is now showing completed. :)
     
  6. bkdtv

    bkdtv New Member

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    If you get a shipping notice from Best Buy, please let us know.
     
  7. spelcheker

    spelcheker Giant Forehead Dude

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    Just one simple question. If I hook up an external antenna to get broadcast HD, can I record 2 HD broadcasts at the same time? Scoured this thread and main site and can't figure this out.
     
  8. gbronzer

    gbronzer New Member

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    I bought mine from BB.com last night and got a tracking number this morning. The tracking number isn't active yet though, but still, it means it's probably sitting on the dock waiting to be picked up by UPS.

    I'm also going to attempt to transfer my grandfathered lifetime sub to this Tivo, so if the above comment about it having to not be bought from Tivo is true, I'll let everyone know.
     
  9. bkdtv

    bkdtv New Member

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    Yes. You can record two different HD broadcasts while watching a third, previously recorded HD broadcast.
     
  10. CharlesH

    CharlesH Member

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    In other words, in the S3 and HD TiVo, both the antenna and cable inputs go to both tuners, so you can be recording two programs from either source at the same time (while watching something already recorded on the TiVo, if you want).
     
  11. rainwater

    rainwater Active Member

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    The TiVo HD does have a eSATA port so that information is false. While its been reported the same hack from the S3 software doesn't work to enable it, you can assume that will change in a future software update.
     
  12. bigusmfan

    bigusmfan New Member

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    Try your local Circuit City B&M. Mine had at least 2 instock today. They're not out on the shelf yet but they showed up in the inventory check online. This is really useful if you have a 40 off 199 like I did (from USPS changing address packet).
     
  13. dvr4me

    dvr4me New Member

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    A couple of Circuit City stores in the Minneapolis area are showing in store stock (you can order online and pick it up in store). Quite nice that they are actually in store the same week as the announcement. Kudos to Tivo.
     
  14. gimpyestrada

    gimpyestrada New Member

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    I am currently receiving over the air HD programming. Say my local digital NBC analog channel is 3. Now my Digital signal is 3.1 and this is _sometimes_ HD and sometimes not.

    If my TiVo HD is recording on channel 3.1 and it is an HD program, obviously it would fall into the "20 hours of HD" bucket.

    However if my TiVo HD is recording on channel 3.1 and it is not an HD program, does it fall into the 20 hour bucket or is it considered SD?

    Another way of asking the same question: Are non-HD programs received over the digital signal considered SD or HD?
     
  15. acheslow

    acheslow New Member

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    If I want to get 2 new Tivo HD boxes will my best monthly cost be a 3-year prepaid plan at $299 and a 3-year month-to-month at $6.95 for MSD? Will it make a difference if I buy either the boxes or the service from Tivo direct or from a retailer?

    I have a lifetime subscription to a DirecTV box with Tivo, which I guess is worthless to the Tivo HD, correct? Since I'm not using that box anymore is my best bet to eBay it with the lifetime sub?

    Edit: For extra credit... Does anyone know what Comcast (Seattle area) will charge me for the CableCards? According to their website it looks like the first card in each box is free, and the second (if I can't get an M-card) would be up to $1.91/month... plus I'd pay ($5.10 ??) for the "additional outlet". Does that look right? Is there anyway to get around the "additional outlet" fee if both boxes are plugged into the same outlet via a splitter?

    Thanks,
    Alan
     
  16. Sandlapper

    Sandlapper New Member

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    I've wondered this myself when recording on my DVR from Charter. Let's say I record Surivovor on the "HD" station, but it's an SD program, is it taking up as much room as normal HD shows?
     
  17. MickeS

    MickeS New Member

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    I think the only difference is that a digital HD show takes up more space than a digital SD show. The "20 hours of HD bucket" is not something that's separate from the "180 hours of analog recording" - that's just two measures of the total hard drive space.

    So yes, I'm pretty sure the non-HD recordings on channel 3.1 will take up less space than an HD recording on the same channel.
     
  18. btwyx

    btwyx Substantive Member

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    Not necessarily. It depends on how the TV station sends its. It could take up as much room, it could take up less room, it could take up more room, it could change during the day. The only way you know for sure is to record it and then look in the info screen for the file size.

    Also its not a hard "20 hours", that depends on how the TV station sends the signal. It could be a lot more than 20 hours, I don't think it can be less than that.
     
  19. aus1ander

    aus1ander New Member

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    That is an interesting question because, in theory, OTA digital SD is upconverted to 720p or 1080i. So, in theory, it should take up more space than an analog station showing the same content... anyone know if this is right?

    An HD datastream will definitely take significantly more space on the drive, either way.
     
  20. bkdtv

    bkdtv New Member

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    Upconverted SD takes about the same space as high-definition. Depending on the station's encoder, actual HD on a 1080i channel might consume 16Mbps and upconverted SD might consume 12Mbps. Neither is comparable to the typical 528x480 SD @ 3-4Mbps.

    You should take the 20 hours of HD to mean 20 hours of recording from high-definition channels, which may or may not be showing actual HD at a given time.
     

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