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Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by MickeS, Jul 24, 2007.
I put it in standby 95% of the time.
If you're in standby a emergency broadcast system test won't cancel a recording. That's a good reason to use standby, particularly when there's a European Grand Prix (Formula 1) on. I lost part of one of those when they tested the EBS at 5am.
My S3 continues to record when there is a test. I just can't access any menus or change the channel during the test but both tuners continue to record during and after the test here.
Unless this has changed recently, mine doesn't. And I assume the behaviour would be the same on the HD.
I think it depends on how the test is implemented. I'm just glad the few times I noticed the test when I was recording that it didn't affect my recordings. WHether it stays like that or not I don't know.
We just added a Tivo HD to our media setup today, and overall we're pretty happy. We're with Comcast, dual cable cards, and we're receiving all the basic + premium channels without any problems.
However, there is one issue that is slightly frustrating. When I pull up the grid guide or the Tivo guide (or even the on-screen information), there is "stutter" in the sound with every press of the remote that changes something on the screen. It's kind of annoying -- I find myself muting if I'm using the guide.
Is this a standard Series 3 "feature?" Could it be the optical sound I'm running? Any thoughts? A search didn't turn up any similar problems...
Can you switch between the two tuners while watching 'live' TV? I found this to be pretty handy with the Comcast box under some circumstances. Do you have any control over which receiver you are watching or even any knowledge of it?
I've got a strange situation (Tivo HD) after wrangling with the Time Warner Cable (Brooklyn) folks for a total of probably 4 hours yesterday.
Cable Card 1 is Authorized though getting no ECMs,etc.
Cable Cards 2 is Authorized, getting ECMs and generally flying high
When just watching TV everything is great. All the channels come in, etc but when I try to RECORD AND WATCH, I get a black screen.
My guess is that Card 1 is not setup properly and not pulling in any of my channels.
Any thoughts on what I can do about this?
Thanks so much,
You can switch between the tuners by hitting the Live TV button.
You can also see what is playing on the other tuner by hitting the Right Arrow button (next to select), the toggle down two positions. It will tell you what is on the other tuner and give you the option to change to it.
You can find out which tuner you are using by going to Account&System Info => Diagnostics and it will give you info about both tuners & cablecards, including the channel that is tuned to each.
You cannot control which tuner will be used (without a lot of game playing by forcing a recording on one and then tuning the other).
Thanks! I tried looking in the user guide but the index didn't mention anything about tuner switching or even tuners.
Yup - it's my most favorite feature....that and dual buffers.
That's supposed to be impossible. When an EAS message is sent, test or real, one of the tuners is required to jump to the channel with the message. I confirmed that behavior with TiVo when I confirmed with them that the unit does NOT do this while in Standby. (It is only required when it is possible someone is watching the output - since it doesn't have output in standby, it doesn't need to switch over.)
Have you actually seen an EAS alert and NOT had the channel change?
My S3 goes to the alert page (black & white text) then goes back to the original programming. recording is disrupted only for the time it is on the alert page. When watching the recording you can fast forward over the alert. It happened just this week for a tornado alert in Pittsburgh (Comcast).
It also does that for the "Required Test of the System" almost everyday during the morning while watching CNBC.
The 3 times I was recording and watching, and alert popped up and I couldn't change the channel or tuner. When I went back to the recordings they were completely intact. The message being sent across the screen was just an overlay and wasn't in the recording. The recording was never interrupted.
What happens if the EAS message is delivered in-band on the channel you are watching? The tuner doesn't have to change then right?
IIRC the EAS is delivered with a separate PID and PVRs can choose to record it along with the audio and video streams. Then later on they can compare time stamps to figure out whether it makes sense to display on delayed playback.
I don't know how TiVo implements it, but as long as the tuner doesn't need to change channels, I don't see why TiVo couldn't continue recording the show.
It sounds like you have a Scientific Atlanta headend.
Scientific Atlanta and Motorola systems handle EAS alerts differently. Motorola STB and CableCARDs are forced to tune to an alert channel to display an EAS alert; S-A systems display the alert as an overlay and (IIRC) download the audio as a wav over the OOB data stream. I prefer S-A's method.
Yes I think you are right. Cox in this area uses Motorola STB and headend equipment and both the cable company DVR and the Tivo are force tuned to the EAS interrupting any recordings (on both tuners). What's worse is they don't return to recording once the EAS completes. So certainly if I go out of town for a few days I leave my Tivos in standby mode to avoid potential interruptions.
I have Comcast/Motorola and the alert is an overlay that does not disrupt channel assignment or recordings.
The cable boxes and cable cards Comcast uses here are Scientific Atlanta.
I'm wondering if the behavior changes whether you are watching/recording encrypted or not-encrypted channels.