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Official Time Warner Cable Thread

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by tunnelengineer, Sep 14, 2006.

  1. cr33p

    cr33p New Member

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    Welcome to the getting ripped off for knowing more than your installer will :) Seems pretty normal, some folks have been able to pick up cards themselve and do a self install but there is no rhyme or reason why some areas alow this and some dont.
     
  2. Mindflux

    Mindflux TiVowned

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    I was told by a TiVO rep that this was a problem with an older software rev. He suggested that when I get my TiVO box to let it update to the latest TiVo software before putting in a cable card, after that I can run a single M-card. He said if you put the cards in before the update it causes some problem requiring two cards to be run even if it's an "M".
     
  3. cr33p

    cr33p New Member

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    Only the Tivo HD can run with a single M card, the S3 Classic still would need either 2 M cards or 2 S cards, regardless of software rev's
     
  4. Mindflux

    Mindflux TiVowned

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    Well I'm looking at the S3 HD (300hr). So this still requires two M or two S's?
     
  5. cr33p

    cr33p New Member

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    That is correct sir. Sorry. Some have said in the future that maybe the S3 will get M card functionality to utilize the dual stream of the card. Who knows why they couldnt backport the drivers to the original platform.
     
  6. JYoung

    JYoung Series 3

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    Absolute crap on Time-Warner's part.
    I have one neighbor (also a forum member) who has cablecards working fine in the East San Fernando with his Series 3s.

    Don't be afraid not only to threaten but follow through with complaining to the FCC and the Los Angeles Cable commission on TW's refusal to support cablecards.
    Time-Warner's already been taking heat from the City due to a rash of service complaints from the former Adelphia customers.
     
  7. Yosemitebob

    Yosemitebob TWC DVR SUCKS

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    I had my S3 HD box up and going with basic cable for about a week before the CC install and experienced no problems. Now a few days later I am seeing pixelation, followed by a 5 second fast forward, then no sound for about 15 or more seconds. It seems random and it occurred twice last night during Comanche Moon:mad:

    I live in Leawood Ks which is in TWC KC territory. I'm hoping there is an update that tivo can help me with and that it's not the m card because I don't want to be charged to walk another tech through the install process! Have any other TWC KC customers experienced this?

    BTW I'm using this on a SDTV at a fixed 480i

    unrelated but I'm in the market for a 32" HDTV if anyone knows of a good brand or model please let me know.
     
  8. calab

    calab New Member

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    I have an HDTV and am about to hook up my HD TiVo to it. I have the Broadcast Basic package from TW Albany (NY). So I get the local stations plus a handful more (cspan, cw...). It's the most basic analog package required by law but not advertised by TW. Since I bought an HDTV, I also now get the local stations HD digital on 18.6, 18.10, etc.

    I called TW to ask whether I'd need a cable card to use my TiVo program guide and they claimed that I wasn't supposed to be getting the local channels in HD under the plan I have. This isn't right, is it? I thought that the local stations had to be passed through unencrypted. I assumed if the channels are offered in HD, then the cable company must send them to me that way. Am I wrong?
     
  9. RTPGiants

    RTPGiants New Member

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    Just got an HD, and don't have the cards yet. I can get the CBS affiliate (WRAL) on the expected 5-1, etc. channels (after scanning). However, I can't get it to see the other affiliate channels FOX, ABC, etc. which should be channels like 11-1 and 50-1, etc. Anyone able to get those?
     
  10. DrWho453

    DrWho453 New Member

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    I live out near mini-city near the triangle town center and I pickup the following channels OTA using an little table top indoor antenna:

    5.x (CBS)
    11.x (ABC)
    17.x (nbc)
    22.1 (CW)
    28.x (myrdc)
    50.x (fox)

    Might be able to pick up others with a larger indoor or outdoor antenna. Just make sure when you set up your tivo that you set it up for antenna or antenna +cable if you are going to use both cable and antenna
     
  11. RTPGiants

    RTPGiants New Member

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    Yeah, I guess I could do that, but doesn't TW have an obligation to send the HD on the network affiliates? It seems weird to only get CBS, PBS, and CW ... obviously they're sending some, but no ABC, FOX, NBC?

    I'll eventually (next week) get a CableCard setup, but it'd be nice to watch football in HD through Tivo this weekend before that.
     
  12. DrWho453

    DrWho453 New Member

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    ok, now you are talking about something different. Before you said that you were trying to get 11.1 50.1 etc. I thought you were trying to get them from the antenna and not the cable. Sorry. Those come in over the air and not on the cable. I never tried to get those channels through the cable itself. I have both an antenna and cable with cable cards installed. Before I had the cable cards installed, I used the antenna to pick up these other stations. I believe time warner is supposed to send them with a clear QAM so you can see them but I am not sure how they are sending them. I just now when I watch them on cable they are on 211 - 257.

    Edit: Also please note that you don't need an HD labled antenna to get HD channels. HD antennas may be optimized to get the signals but if you have any indoor tv antenna, you can use it. I am using an antenna that I have had since 1995. It is amplified though the amplification is turned off right now. It sits right behind my tv and picks up the HD channels without any problems. It is funny to see the analog channel like channel 5 with static and then go to 5.1 and see it crystal clear :)
     
  13. RTPGiants

    RTPGiants New Member

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    Sorry if there was confusion.

    Basically, I set it as Cable only. I then went through guided setup and had no HD channels. I then let Tivo scan the channels, and it "discovered" some channels like:
    4-1
    4-2
    5-1
    5-2
    5-3
    ...

    Tuning 5-1 is the HD feed of WRAL, as you'd expect. FOX should be 50-1, 50-2, etc. but they're not found apparently.

    Through my HD box (not through Tivo obviously), the HD channels are in the 200s as you noted but during the cable scan, Tivo said it "found" channels in the 200s, but for whatever reason, it won't allow those to be added via the channels you get list. The top channel there is 102-8.
     
  14. DrWho453

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    Hmm, interesting, if you go to the tivo system information and go to diagnostics after changing to 5-1, does the signal source say cable or antenna? and what kind of signal strength do you get. If I go to 5.1 I get a source of terrestrial and modulation of 8 VSB
     
  15. RTPGiants

    RTPGiants New Member

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    Just to be clear, it's listed as 5-1, not 5.1

    Source is "cbl" and signal strength is hovers between 98 and 100 and says "digital signal acquired".
     
  16. Welshdog

    Welshdog Tivo this, punk!

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    Umm, I've seen what the HD coming out of digital cable looks like and stunning is not the word I would use. I work at a post production house in Austin and we make HD commercials and videos. We have a 46" LCD panel in our lobby that we sometimes feed TWC digital cable HD. Sometimes, the channels look nice, but don't look at them too closely! The amount of compression applied to the video to squeeze it into that cable is huge and it shows. To my eye the compression artifacts are plainly obvious. Satellite is not much different. I will admit that some channels look pretty good, but I always manage to see junk in there that is unsightly. Don't get me wrong - I can live with it, but stunning?

    Meh.

    You want clean HD? Look at OTA HD or BluRay/HD-DVD. Now THAT is what HD should look like. Of course you could watch some stuff on our $80k Sony HDCAM SR tape deck, but it would only make you cry.:D
     
  17. DrWho453

    DrWho453 New Member

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    Hmm, thats interesting I guess if I ever remove the cable cards I will have to try and see what I get without the antenna. Didn't realize they were doing that. Oh well.

    Also 5-1 and 5.1 are the same. Tivo doesn't have a period key so you have to use the - to replace the . but its all the same. Oh well, maybe someone else on here will no what all the x-x channels are that will work on cable. I know we have a few people here from the raleigh cary and apex areas.
     
  18. RTPGiants

    RTPGiants New Member

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    Ok, nevermind, I just s*ck. I had been using a cable feed that was split a lot (strength of about 87 on the 5-1 channel). Changing to a more direct feed got me the higher signal strength and also gave me the 11-x and 50-x channels I expected.
     
  19. cableguy763

    cableguy763 New Member

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    Welshdog,
    Not to throw any rocks, but TWC --DOES NOT--compress any local network feed. They send it out like they get it. The only HD channels that could be clamped or compressed in Austin are the HD SDV channels. Those cannot be received by OTA, so I must assume you are talking about OTA. I have seen plenty of OTA with compression artifacts, especially OTA NBC. So don't look too closely to that.
     
  20. Welshdog

    Welshdog Tivo this, punk!

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    Yeah I was speaking more about the non-OTA stuff. I'm probably overly critical.

    BTW Cable guy I've been meaning to ask you, my QAM channels seem to be not there lately. Right now all I get is CBS KEYE and the Tivo thinks it is KLRU! The Tivo info is there when I tune the channel but no image appears except for the above mentioned CBS on the wrong channel number. I'm seeing this on both the TVHD and the S3. I'm on TWC analog in Oak Hill.

    Any thoughts?
     

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