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Official Comcast CableCard Thread!

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by amjustice, Sep 14, 2006.

  1. Sam Lowry

    Sam Lowry New Member

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    OK everybody, with all of the hassles described on this >230 page thread, my question is... if I'm going to switch to Comcast soon (I'd like to get it going before the Olympics so I can see it in HD), and I don't yet have a TivoHD (I have a S2). Do I go ahead and start my cable ASAP, and get the TivoHD (or hopefully a newer Tivo device) + the CableCard later? Or should I try to get it all at once?

    I'm in the Santa Cruz, CA area (Aptos).

    Thanks,
    SL
     
  2. dswallow

    dswallow Save the Moderatоr TCF Club

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    I'd want to have the TiVo HD unit(s) when Comcast comes to do the install.
     
  3. flaminiom

    flaminiom New Member

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    Yeah, get the Tivo HD installed then have Comcast come out. You don't want to re-do the Comcast setup if you can avoid it.

    You can run the cable guide setup without the card installed. So, when they show up, you're guide info should be ready to go once the pairing is complete.
     
  4. drhankz

    drhankz New Member

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    Get started ASAP - FYI - you should not need a CableCard to get
    either OTA HD or Basic HD channels. I get ABC, NBC, CBS and FOX
    in HD from Comcast without a CableCard.

    If you do want a CableCard for other Premium HD Channels - then
    you do need a CableCard - AGAIN Get Started ASAP.
     
  5. Tsiehta

    Tsiehta Active Member

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    So, what did the Comcast tech DO/Tell the Dispatcher to get the Tivo working?
     
  6. Sam Lowry

    Sam Lowry New Member

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    Thanks for yours and others' responses. I'm a bit confused. What exactly are Premium HD Channels? You mean anything but the usual broadcast stations - like ESPN, Syfy, CNN, etc? Or do you mean paid channels like HBO?

    Sounds like getting the Tivo installed with the basic cable option (digital starter?) is fine. And then get the cable card later? Do I need a cable box without the CableCard?
     
  7. drhankz

    drhankz New Member

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    It varies from MSO to MSO.

    Bottom Line is usually - if you can receive the channel OEVR THE AIR,
    then you can most likely receive it over the cable WITHOUT a CableCard.
    Something like ESPN, etc - you can't receive OTA - therefore you will
    need a CableCard. HBO, Starz, Showtime, are all EXTRA COST - period.
     
  8. jneugeba

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    I'm in the same boat with wanting to get up and running by the Olympics (just got my HD Tivo), but am confused as Comcast told me I could go to my local outlet and get the card myself. Is this not the case? Do I go there and ask for one M-Cable card? Or is there anything else more specific I need to know. Thanks!
     
  9. dswallow

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    Some Comcast areas let you pick up the cards and self-install. Some require a truck roll. Unfortunately, also don't be surprised if you go to pick them up and then they tell you it requires a truck roll. The CSRs don't necessarily know what they do, either.

    But if that happens to you, make them at least do the install for free. :)
     
  10. dswallow

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    Unless they're delivering it as an 8VSB signal over cable, which these days should be pretty rare, even if they let you get the over the air digital stations without a CableCARD, the TiVo has no way of doing any mapping of guide data to the correct QAM channel. You really still need the CableCARD, at least to utilize TiVo's scheduling/recording capabilities with those channels.
     
  11. drhankz

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    I'm surprised to hear that. I have (1) TiVo with CableCard and (5) SONY
    DVRs with (2) CableCards out ot (5).

    The Sony DVRs DO GET the correct Mapping Data without any CableCard.
    I'm very surprised that TiVo PAYING Subscribers do not get the right
    mapping data. Why would TiVo care if there is a CableCard installed for
    effectively FREE Channels.
     
  12. Phantom Gremlin

    Phantom Gremlin New Member

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    There's a 51 page thread that explains this situation in excruciating detail.
     
  13. drhankz

    drhankz New Member

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    Thanks for the heads up Info and the Link
     
  14. jneugeba

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    You were exactly right. Went to the outlet and was told it would need a truck roll. They come this afternoon, I hope everything works.
     
  15. CorrysD

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    My mom has a series 2 TiVo and basic cable from Comcast in the Philadelphia area. She has a cable box to decode the digital channels. Recently, more channels have been converted to digital, so I had to change the settings on those channels from cable to box in the TiVo menu. The only problem with that is her ability to use both tuners, concurrently, is dwindling. One tuner is fed from the cable box and the other is fed from the cable. We were told by TiVo that her only option is to get a series 3 HD TiVo along with two cable cards from Comcast to fully utilize both tuners. This seems like overkill for basic cable.

    Does that sound correct? Are there any other alternatives?

    thanks for your help
     
  16. drhankz

    drhankz New Member

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    You don't NEED (2) CableCards if you buy a NEW TiVo HD . You only
    need one "M" card. The OLD series "3" needed (2) Cards.
     
  17. schwinn

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    drhankz is correct - you don't need 2 cable cards (a single M-card will do both tuners)

    I thinnk the real question you are asking is how you can retain both tuners of capability. As the cablecos move more towards digital, the S2 will not be able to receive these channels on its own. You could get an additional DTA box or cable box (DTA = less-functional, smaller box, that works for basic cable). This DTA box can provide channels to the S2, and then you can continue to use the cable box as you normally do. In other words, you have two digital tuners (DTA + cable box) to get the job done.

    Comcast, at least in my area (MA), is providing 1 cable box and 2 DTA boxes to people undergoing the digital transition for cable systems... I believe these are being provided for free. If you're undergoing the digital transition, you may be able to get these for free as well, from your cable company.
     
  18. drhankz

    drhankz New Member

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    Thanks - lately I open my mouth ONLY to change FEET :p

    At least this time I got one right :up:
     
  19. CorrysD

    CorrysD New Member

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    Thanks for the helpful information. I'll look into the DTA box option.
     
  20. wingtsundummy

    wingtsundummy New Member

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    I have the comcast guy here now to install an MCard on my TivoHD.
    He put the card in the correct slot and nothing happens on the Tivo. Isn't the paring info supposed to popup or something?

    It sees the Mcard in the Cablecard decoders screen, but when you click on the cable card 1, it says something like "your cable company has not supplied any inforamtion about this..."


    anyone know what is up?
     

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