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Official Comcast CableCard Thread!

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by amjustice, Sep 14, 2006.

  1. Sep 28, 2006 #601 of 9367
    pchunter

    pchunter New Member

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    Im in Montgomery County MD and have had similar problems. I actually got an install scheduled today and after leaving the cards with my wife at home, the installer returned to pick them up as his supervisor said they don't provide cards for 3rd party DVR's. I've been on the phone with several different supervisors and get a different answer from everyone.
     
  2. Sep 28, 2006 #602 of 9367
    bxwatso

    bxwatso New Member

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    Thanks. I should say that I spent 7.5 years developing testimony for Qwest defending against issues such as this one in the telecom arena. I will post any further correspondence from the FCC or the Denver government.
     
  3. Sep 29, 2006 #603 of 9367
    ctakim

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    This is exactly what happened to me today. The installer put in two CC and both give me similar info on the CP screen, but I'm lacking all th encripted digital and HD channels. HD broadcast is fine and is in HD but the othre HD and premium channesl are not working.
     
  4. Sep 29, 2006 #604 of 9367
    sharding

    sharding New Member

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    FWIW, I got my Comcast bill, and it shows $0 for the cable cards, and no extra "outlet" charges or anything like that. The only change in the total amount of my bill was the removal of the DVR. It was kind of a weird bill, though, because I got the cable cards and removed the DVR part way through the month. Next month will probably be the true test.
     
  5. Sep 29, 2006 #605 of 9367
    jfh3

    jfh3 New Member

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    Call Tivo and get them to help.

    The 3rd party DVR line is BS. The Series 3 is a CableLabs approved device. As such, the cable company is REQUIRED to provide the cards.
     
  6. Sep 29, 2006 #606 of 9367
    vukicevic

    vukicevic New Member

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    I finally picked up a S3 today, and called Comcast to set up a cablecard install. I'm in Mountain View, CA (Bay Area), and just used the 1-800 number. I got transferred to the "CableCard Department", where I was told that I should call back sometime next week, probably Wednesday, as that is "when [they] will have the new code for the second card for the tivo". She said that right now, if I were to order, I would be charged $12.50/mo for the second card. If I waited until they got the new order code in place, it would be $1.50/mo.

    This is all well and good, but we went off into bizzaro-land when I asked if I could place the order now and just be converted to the "new code" once it's in their system... I was told that all subscribers would be "grandfathered in to the old code" and would continue to pay the $12.50/mo; when I asked how those subscribers could go about changing that, seeing as how they'll be providing the same service for much less, I was told that they did not have a procedure in place to do that and that she did not know if it was possible.

    I'll be calling back again tomorrow.
     
  7. Sep 29, 2006 #607 of 9367
    c3

    c3 TiVoholic

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    Don't even settle for $1.50/month. Many people in this area have reported 2 free cards for the first unit.
     
  8. Sep 29, 2006 #608 of 9367
    bicker

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    So you're suggesting we do the Guided Setup just with the coax, before our CableCard installation appointment? Should we set up coax and antenna both? Is that the current best suggestion?
     
  9. Sep 29, 2006 #609 of 9367
    bicker

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    When they do that, though, we'll need a STB again for our Series 2s, eh?
     
  10. Sep 29, 2006 #610 of 9367
    jjarmoc

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    Well, I finally got my second card working. My experience with the old card (Motorola v3.34) was that premiums (both HD and Standard) would not come in, nor would my local CBS afffiliate's SD feed (channel 2). A new card (Motorola v4.21) resolved the problems.

    My two working cards are Mot v4.05 and Mot v4.21.

    I realize that one incident doesn't represent a causal relationship, but I've seen no other mentions of the v3.34 cards, so it seems to me the two may be related.

    Those of you still having problems, you may want to check your card's version.
     
  11. Sep 29, 2006 #611 of 9367
    wackymann

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    Well that's what I did last night... cable only. It seemed to work well. It was a good test of my network connection and the Tivo hardware in general.

    I just hope that once I have the cable cards installed that the analog channels will go away forever! My system has ADS, and I don't ever want to see another analog channel pop up on my Tivo after the cable cards are up and running.
     
  12. Sep 29, 2006 #612 of 9367
    Bighouse

    Bighouse 200 Club Member

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    Cable guy's supposed to be here within the next 4 hours. I've been reading the potential problems he may encounter so I'll be prepared to help him if necessary. I'll post a message to tell you all how it went.
     
  13. Sep 29, 2006 #613 of 9367
    dwiller

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    Finally up and running here in Natick, MA. 2 weeks after buying the TiVo, and 1week after first botched installation.

    I posted my horror story about the installation last week (post #416 in this thread). A quick summary: I had a contractor in last Saturday to do the install. He said he had done a few installations. He couldn't get through to Comcast and said he would call in my information. He checked the local HD channels which worked, and then left. I started checking other channels, and nothing came in. I called in many times for them to hit/re-init the card but nothing ever happened. I tried rebooting, reseating, online help, telephone help. Nothing worked.

    Today (trouble call) I get an installer that had never seen a Series 3 TiVo before. I was nervous. I tell him the story, and we both hope that the problem is just that the contractor guy never called in the information (as he only had 1 extra card with him.) He calls dispatch, and then gets transferred to a cablecard technician (name was JASON and was fantastic!!!!!! If you are reading this THANKS!!!).

    While he is looing up my info, Jason askes if this is a TiVo. We said yes. I think the installer was relieved that this guy was familiar with the equipment. Installer asks Jason how he knew it was a TiVo, and Jason says the past 2 weeks, any account with 2 cablecards has been for a TiVo. Jason says he has no data for me, other than the serial numbers. Everyone should note, Comcast needs:

    CableCard(tm) number
    Host number
    Data number

    Jason and the tech made a few comments how it was ridiculous that the contractor left and did not call in the information. My installer said 'you have to stay until the job is done'. I was happy to hear that, because as we all know, this sometimes takes a while.

    My tech passes along this information, Jason says he is sending a hit to the card. Within about 5 seconds I get this error screen (161-4 I think) that I've heard everyone talking about on this forum. Jason knew this would happen, as he had done quite a few TiVos. Jason suggests we go to the other card and give him the information, while the data is coming in for the first card we activated. So we do that, and then I go back to the test channel screen for the 1st card we installed. The tech and I are both excited becuase I HAVE CHANNELS FINALLY!

    I should note that we did all of this with both cards installed, as they were still in place from when originally put in by the 1st installer. We did CableCard 2 first. I should also note that it helped that I had typed up my own data sheet with the S/N of the card. Jason said 'let's do 1537 first', and since I had my info, I knew that was the card in slot 2.

    So that first card worked, so then we went to CableCard 1 to test those channels. "No channels available". Ugh. We were not pleased. We let it sit a few minutes, but still no channels available. Jason said it could be the card, or it could be that slot on the TiVo (yikes!). He said to swap the cards, so we'd know if it was the card or the port.

    We swap the cards (did not reboot TiVo), and then I ask Jason if we should reinput the CC/Host/Data, since I thought that information was attached to the S/N of the card. He deems that to be a good call. He wasn't able to swap the info on his screen, so we had to tell him the info again. The CC(tm) number didn't change, but host and data did.

    We go to the card that WAS working. If this card didn't work, we'd know it was the TiVo. No channels. Jason puts us on hold to check some things (he was sitting next to someone else who had done some TiVos and I heard him asking questions.) While we were on hold, I kept checking 'test channels' and finally it was there!! Jason comes back, and we tell him that one card is working. We give him the host/data for the 2nd card. He hits the card. Get the good error message. Then same thing...no channels available. We start to think this is a bad card. I'm upset because we'll have to hang up with Jason, since dispatch needs to handle inputting the new S/N...Jason couldn't do that. And Jason was great. He says if we install a new card, once we get it added to the account, to call back to cable card support and ask for him. Tech goes outside to get the 1 extra card he had. I keep trying 'test channels'. Tried for about 5 minutes, and then magically the channels were there. I tested all my HD channels, HBO, etc. All working. Tech was very happy...I don't think he was too experienced with cable card or TiVo and I don't think he really wanted to start dealing with that. We were both happy.

    We shook hands and he left. My appt was 9-11am. He got here at 9:30am. He was here about 35 minutes total I'd say.

    At this point, I called Comcast, and said I did not want to pay the $30.05 installation, because it took me 2 appointments where I had to clear my schedule, and that the installation was not done correctly, and told her how my information was never called in. I said the guy who came today and the person he spoke with on the phone were great, and solved the problem, but didn't think I should be charged. She apologized and said she'd have no problem clearing the installation charges. So in the end, my cable card installation was free, and I get 1 cable card for free and the other one for $2.75/month.

    Sorry this is so long, but I know we all have a story. Maybe something in here will help someone else.

    Dave
     
  14. Sep 29, 2006 #614 of 9367
    rodneyw1

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    I went in to my local Comcast office yesterday to order two more cards for second Series3 and to ask why I was charged a $6.95 additional outlet charge on the first Series3. I explained once again that both cards go in one TiVo. She checked on her computer and said she had new info that 1st card is free, second is $1.50. My second tivo would be charged as additional outlet at $6.95 plus $1.50 for second card. But...She would not schedule appointment until she could change my billing on the first order and at that point she had no way to do that. She took my number and said she would call me back. Its clear Comcast was not ready for this roll-out of the TiVo 3.
     
  15. Sep 29, 2006 #615 of 9367
    dobbie1

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    The cable installer just left and both my cards are working. Everything went very smooth on the installation. Comcast (formerly Time Warner) Memphis.
     
  16. Sep 29, 2006 #616 of 9367
    sharding

    sharding New Member

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    Quick question: If I remove the Cable Cards from my TiVo and then put them right back in (in the same slots), will I have to have Comcast reauthorize them, or will they continue working as before?
     
  17. Sep 29, 2006 #617 of 9367
    btwyx

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    Everyone who still wants analog will need a STB or cable card. That's what the DCT-700 is about, its cheap enough to give away (almost).
     
  18. Sep 29, 2006 #618 of 9367
    btwyx

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    They should continue working. Unplugging a card is like turning off the TV its in, a cable card should be able to survivie that. I tried it to look for QAM channels and when I plugged them back in it went through the card discovery process again, popped up the ugly screens and started working again. Then I redid guided setup (and lost the QAM channels I'd scanned in.)
     
  19. Sep 29, 2006 #619 of 9367
    bxwatso

    bxwatso New Member

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    I faxed a copy of the letter to Comcast corporate last night around 5 PM. I got a call this morning at 9AM and two more before 11AM. Not surprisingly, the escalations manager took an interest in my letter.

    Anyway, Comcast now says they made an error, although the first 3 people I talked to did not feel this way. They are now willing to charge me only an extra $1.95 per month for the 2nd CableCard. While I think that this is technically wrong, I think it is probably close to their actual cost to provide me an extra card. I am looking forward to verifying this on my upcoming bill.

    If anyone has this problem in the future, you need to tell Comcast that the $6.95 for an extra CableCard includes the HDTV fee. You should not be billed an HDTV fee, but just the $6.95, which is the $5 HDTV fee plus the $1.95 CableCard rental fee.

    I suppose that should multi-stream CableCards be released, they will eliminate the need for the $1.95 extra fee.
     
  20. Sep 29, 2006 #620 of 9367
    jimbojim

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    I had a great Comcast experience here in Seattle. Picked up 2 CC from the Redmond cable store without hassle. No charge, the lady just added them to my account and told me to have fun with my new Tivo. I got home and installed the cards in the S3, called 1-800-comcast, told them i need to activate to cards, they found them on my account and told me i was good to go.

    I was pretty nervious after reading everything in this thread but every channel worked flawlessly on both tuners right away.

    Comcast in the Seattle area looks to be the class act right now with regards to setting up a S3.

    -james
     

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