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No upgrade incentive from TiVo!

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by bklinc, Aug 23, 2013.

  1. bklinc

    bklinc New Member

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    I was told early termination fee is $22/mo. x 6 months. Used Premier boxes are listed high on auction websites, but don't bring much in the end. As I posted earlier, I have had enough bad experiences buying and selling used items, I won't do it anymore.
     
  2. dswallow

    dswallow Save the Moderatоr TCF Club

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    Before US carriers figured out people wanted the latest tech gadgets (and frankly I'm not all that sure even today that anybody but AT&T has really figured that out), I always would buy my phones from expansys in the UK and import them. Starting back in the good days of OmniPoint -- before VoiceStream -- before T-Mobile. When international roaming was not only affordable but downright cheap.
     
  3. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    It really depends. Some months I might only use 2GB to 3GB and some months I might use 12GB or more. For instance this is a high month because I've been working late alot and have been streaming alot of music which gets my data usage up.
    My phone was streaming over 15 hours today from Amazon and Pandora.
    I also rarely do anything over Wi-Fi. I typically download everything over the cellular network.
     
  4. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    Nor Sprint. As far as I know, no carrier ever allowed that. If you want out of a contract, you pay a hefty fee. Would be the same with TiVo if you had a subsidized DVR. Often they will let you upgrade a little early as a bonus to keep you locked in, though.

    I do wish the FTC would end misleading pricing advertising. Smart phones do not have and never have costed $50 or $200... those are DOWN PAYMENTS and should be clearly listed as such on all marketing materials. Same thing should go for what TiVo was doing.
     
  5. compnurd

    compnurd New Member

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    I disagree here. I think Tivo is making a huge mistake not upgrading alot of premiere owners... quite frankly they should allow anyone under contract on a premiere to purchase a roamio and restart there 1 year commitment. with the exception of the few fanatics here.. they will lose alot of customers not happy with the premieres relative performance..

    even more so from people who just purchased premieres.. Direct TV subsidizes there boxes also.. but they dont stop you from buying the latest buy and just restarting your commitment
     
  6. JoeTaxpayer

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    Verizon typically offers a 6 month early upgrade, i.e. after 18 months on contract, the next phone can be ordered, and 2 yr cycle starts again.
     
  7. aristoBrat

    aristoBrat Active Member

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    Sorry, was referring to an "early upgrade", where they let you sign a new contract when you're towards the end of an existing contract. Like what JoeTaxpayer mentions in the post above.
     
  8. PaulNEPats

    PaulNEPats New Member

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    They stopped doing this

    Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 2
     
  9. gatorbait

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    Hey I am interested. Is this something TiVo is doing now? Any tricks? Thanks
     
  10. dswallow

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    No matter what incentives you may decide to offer to encourage adoption of a new product, the one thing you do first is take advantage of everyone willing to pay full price to get it now. It would be stupid for TiVo to offer anything special on the Roamio's for at least a month or two, if not longer. You don't give something away someone is willing to pay for if you don't have to.
     
  11. No1hedberg

    No1hedberg New Member

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    You are trying to get out of your last agreement without paying, why would they expect that you will honor the new one? Frankly i'm not sure why you feel that your such a special customer that you don't have to follow the same rules everyone else does. If this upsets you this much, and you really want to screw around with vcr's I'd say your best bet is to part ways. TiVo isn't for everybody. BTW $15 x 6 months remaining is $90. Just sayin.
     
  12. atmuscarella

    atmuscarella Active Member

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    I agree with this.

    I expect all of us buying now are paying more than we will have too in a few months, my guess is at least $100 more for the base Roamio with lifetime (my guess - $600+/- now vs $500+/- by Christmas). I decided buying now was worth it to me.

    Expecting TiVo to give you a special deal on these now is just foolish.
     
  13. innocentfreak

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    But also based off history since every new series except maybe the series 2 has had an upgrade offer at launch.
     
  14. atmuscarella

    atmuscarella Active Member

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    Are you sure?

    I believe the TiVo HD wasn't discounted at all until almost 12 months in. I bought mine about 1 year in when they offered it at $100 off which I believe was the first deal/offer I had. Just as a side note there was also no lifetime offered for the first year of the TiVo HD either, when I ordered it lifetime wasn't available by the time it was delivered they were offering it again so I spent $500 (plus sales tax) for a TiVo HD with lifetime.

    For the Premiere I believe the upgrade offers started pretty fast (I bought mine about 9 months in), but we all know why TiVo had to do that. The Premiere with lifetime deals where $500+/- and the Roamio with MSD Lifetime is $600+/- now so they may have the deals already baked in.
     
  15. innocentfreak

    innocentfreak Active Member

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    I missed the TiVo HD and Series 3 launch, but I believe those had the $199 lifetime transfer option. I remember people comparing it to the Premiere since the Premiere wasn't the transfer. Maybe it wasn't at launch then, but I swear people said it was.

    The Premiere launched with the upgrade offer, but you had to buy direct from TiVo. I preordered both of my XLs this way. They offered $199 lifetime upgrade with eligible box. You got to keep lifetime on your old TiVo also.
     
  16. jrtroo

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    Well, this is the first box in a while with so much hype and product love from media outlets. No need to discount to get the early adopters/fast followers to buy, as was necessary with other launches.

    Hmm, does Apple provide discounts on new launches? Not a bad pricing model to follow if your product is popular.
     
  17. trade

    trade Tivo Addict

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    I think that TiVo is worse that cell carriers and phone manufacturers, because is both at the same time.

    I got a Tivo Elite at March 2012 because I need the 4 decoders because 2 are not enough at this recording series style life, I purchase the extended warranty and lifetime subscription. So a few month after they decide change the name from Elite to Premiere 4XL, well suppose only a faceplate name change but my Elite was depreciated instantly.

    Now the new line coming more than a year after and I welcome the 6 decoders inside and new improvements in the User Interface, the Netflix & YouTube fix (that never work on my Premiere 4 series), but I cannot accept that the old Tivo 4 series cannot gets the updates right away and we'll wait unknown term to get some new version.

    By example Apple is working in the iOS7 and an old phone like iPhone 4 can be updated to this new version maybe not all the features but the most at the same day will be released to the new phones 5S. Tivo is making obsoletes our DVRs and pushing to buy a new hardware and a lifetime service with a big disadvantage to their customers.

    In the AT&T case I can upgrade my phone with the same subsidy price after certain time and get an extension of contract (such a lifetime service pay) but I don't pay the full price at the beginning of the contract.

    I got a Tivo Mini to replace a Tivo Premiere at my Kids Room, at first I thinked get a Lifetime Service ($150) on it but maybe 2 years service was not enough time to get a new model coming. Today TiVo with the Roamio Series make think the nonsense of pay a lifetime service when you will get in less of 2 years a new model with more features, with not upgrade path, and the same cost of purchase a new box and new lifetime service to the loyal customers.

    So meantime TiVo realizes that the Roamio would not sells as good it expects and makes me an offer to the Black Friday or Christmas, I got a 1TB DVR Expander on Ebay to my old Elite and save my money to purchase the new PS4 that will play better Netflix and YouTube streams that the old Tivo system.

    Trade
     
  18. larrs

    larrs Movie Fan-Addict

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    I think Tivo could easily offer the original poster a compromise. Why not give him a new Roamio with a one-year commitment plus the remaining on the old unit (18 mos.) instead of the standard one year? Maybe even require return of the original equipment (a TRUE upgrade).

    Maybe their software cannot handle it, but I would think they could do something to make that work.


    What I do not support is what the OP was tying to do: stop the subsidy subscription in favor of the new subsidy subscription with no penalty. As has been pointed out repeatedly, this is a definite loser for Tivo. If they constantly did this, they would go under fast.

    "lose money on every sale but make it up in volume"
     
  19. jrtroo

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    The sell-out nature of this initial release is just going to prove that Tivo, at this time, has no incentive to offer special upgrades. Either they have TONS of new customers who have been waiting for a Tivo DVR solution, or have TONS of older generation customers who have wanted a new HD box.

    Great for Tivo, bad for me to have to wait to upgrade until (hopefully) the price drops after the holidays!
     

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