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No MOCA with wireless connection to router for Roamio Plus

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by wco81, Sep 9, 2013.

  1. Sep 9, 2013 #1 of 12

    wco81 Member

    Dec 28, 2001
    San Jose, CA
    I'm having work done in my home, so I have to move around the Roamio and the Mini from room to room -- wherever they're not working.

    So I can't set up a wired connection for the Roamio Plus.

    When I set up a wireless connection, it seems to be fine. I can view Youtube videos, including HD ones, which play smoothly over the wireless connectin.

    Then I try to create MOCA network and it says no Internet connection.

    So I have to reconnect to my SSID and re-obtain a DHCP IP address.

    If it's not supported to use a wireless connection, then it should say so, shouldn't it?

    Or is MOCA only supported if the bridge is on ethernet connection?
  2. Sep 9, 2013 #2 of 12

    WRX09MD Member

    Aug 24, 2013
    Roamio must be wired to support Moca for a mini
  3. wco81

    wco81 Member

    Dec 28, 2001
    San Jose, CA
    Ok, understood.

    A more general question. Now that MOCA is working across the house, would I be able to get a MOCA adapter to feed ethernet to another device near any coax drop?

    The ones on Amazon are described as coax-to-ethernet, which sounds like the built-in bridge in the Roamio Plus. But since the Roamio plus is taking the ethernet and has created the MOCA network, is there a way to connect other devices which have ethernet but not coax to the MOCA network?

    Presumably something that you connect the coax to and then an ethernet port to connect to other devices?

    Something like this:

  4. Smirks

    Smirks .:. Hello .:.

    Oct 7, 2002
    Yep, that'll absolutely work exactly the way you want it to.

    You're better off getting it directly from TiVo though for a little more than 1/2 the cost than the one on Amazon. For some reason they have the lowest prices on the web for the Actiontec bridges.
  5. socrplyr

    socrplyr Active Member

    Jul 19, 2006
    I was actually going to say the same thing about checking out getting it from Tivo.
    It is $50.
    If you need 2 you can get those for $90.
    It is still cheaper even when you factor in shipping and tax.
  6. Aug 2, 2014 #6 of 12

    gamo62 Member

    Oct 12, 2002
    Why does it have to be wired? Shouldn't they be able to coexist? My mini is not near an ethernet connection. The Roamio uses wireless, and is not near an ethernet connection either?

    Why does it have to be wired to stream?
  7. gamo62

    gamo62 Member

    Oct 12, 2002
    Anyone have an answer on why the Roamio has to have a wired connection for the Mini to work?
  8. BigJimOutlaw

    BigJimOutlaw Well-Known Member

    Mar 21, 2004
    Discussed a little bit at the link below. While technically feasible I think the bottom line is that they want a wired path to the router to cover for all possible scenarios as a rule for local streaming. Setups get more complicated as more boxes get added. (e.g. a Mini couldn't stream from a non-moca secondary Tivo if the host Tivo is wireless.)

  9. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

    Jan 31, 2002
    Probably because the vast majority of residential Wi-Fi setups are nowhere close to being properly setup. Just by the fact that they only have one AP. So there is much more likely to be wireless issues from signal strength, congestion, or saturation. A properly setup Wi-Fi networks needs multiple APs in multiple locations to avoid signal issues, congestion and saturation issues. But unfortunately most homes have one AP to cover an entire house. I have several APs just for a single level condo to get proper coverage, speeds, and excellent signal strength.
  10. gamo62

    gamo62 Member

    Oct 12, 2002
    But if the two boxes are connected via Coax, why can't that be used to stream the content? Why is a wired network needed, to at least watch content already on the Roamio.
  11. L David Matheny

    L David Matheny Active Member

    Jan 29, 2011
    SE Ohio
    I'm no networking expert, but it may be that the MoCA circuitry in the Roamio (Plus or Pro) can bridge only the Ethernet port to the coax, and the wireless client interface is subsidiary somehow. But the OP should be able to do what he wants to do by using a second router running something like DD-WRT in client mode to connect to his wireless access point. Connected that way (instead of using the built-in wireless client), the Roamio (or Mini or whatever) would just see a wired connection without even realizing that part of the link is wireless.

    Oops! To answer your question, it may be that the Roamio (Plus or Pro) needs to be connected via Ethernet to something running DHCP to assign IP addresses to everybody.
  12. shrike4242

    shrike4242 Member

    Nov 30, 2006
    Saint Louis, MO
    The Roamio does allow bridging for its Ethernet port to a different device when connected via MoCA, like a standalone MoCA adapter. The Roamio just passes through traffic over the Ethernet port via the MoCA connection.

    The OP needs hook a MoCA adapter to his router which allows the network to see the MoCA traffic, either the ECB2500C that is on Amazon & Tivo, an older ECB2200 that was replaced by the 2500, or the ECB3500:


    Once the MoCA adapter is wired to the router, the Roamio and Mini should see one another and work over MoCA. It's unclear in the OP if there is a coax connection in all of the rooms of the OP's house or not, which is an obvious necessity for MoCA to work, including where the router is located.

    The OP would just need to adjust the Roamio and Mini to use MoCA as their connection method and it should work without issue.

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