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No HD UI with Premiere ?

Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by ilkevinli, Mar 28, 2010.

  1. Mar 30, 2010 #61 of 140
    NotVeryWitty

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    When is it a "hint" and when is it a "promise"?

    Has Tivo "promised" to use the second CPU core? I don't think so.

    Has Tivo "promised" *anything*? Ever?

    Until I see the P-word itself come from Bob or another official Tivo rep, I think I need to assume that none of the "hinted-at" features will appear in the shipping Premiere software. So, it would be prudent for me to wait to see what Tivo can actually deliver before I plunk my money down...
     
  2. Mar 30, 2010 #62 of 140
    RoyK

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    I recall that posting being made after TiVo found it could not live up to the statement you made not once but twice in the video taken at CES 2006 that the S3 would require one multistream card or two single stream cards.
     
  3. Mar 30, 2010 #63 of 140
    ZeoTiVo

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    Wow, you should just get a Moxi and save yourself a lot of heartburn and video archiving. :D
     
  4. Mar 30, 2010 #64 of 140
    innocentfreak

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    Any word on how enabling the second core may affect transfer speeds? I thought I read somewhere we might see some type of decrease in speed since that core wouldn't be free anymore to handle just the transfer.
     
  5. Mar 30, 2010 #65 of 140
    lessd

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    I was not referring to the Premiere, I was making reference to the original Series 3.
    TiVo has promised the HDUI for the premier but not for any Series 3 TiVo, when it is in the Spec it's a promise. When the original Series 3 came out MRV was not available, TiVo hinted that it would be in the future, and a few months later it was.
     
  6. Mar 30, 2010 #66 of 140
    TiVoPony

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    Roy, good job digging up that video from 2006. Ahh, we were all so much younger then.

    To be clear, that was taken at a tradeshow, with a prototype box, nine months prior to product launch. CableLabs did not introduce a certification process for MCard devices until a year later (after Series3 was on the market).

    The marketing materials, manual, etc at the time of the Series3 launch did not claim it worked with MCard.

    And, as I pointed out, I clarified that this was not in the cards for Series3 not once, but twice in 2008. Here's the post.

    I apologize if you misunderstood 'very, very unlikely'. Or if you made your purchase decision based on preliminary information taken from a trade show nine months prior to launch. It certainly was not our intention to mislead you, or others. The guy speaking in January 2006 on that video had every reason to believe that the cable industry would move faster than they did on MCard, and that the product would be able to embrace that new technology.

    Now that the full background is there...I'm not looking for an argument. But I will share that this type of 'welcome' is exactly the reason you don't see much of the old TiVo gang online here anymore. Since dropping back in here I've had some words of encouragement, but it's also been asserted that I don't tell the truth, am not to be trusted, that I'm a 'marketing puke'...

    Is that really how you all want to attract more participation from TiVo?

    Cheers,
    Pony
     
  7. Mar 30, 2010 #67 of 140
    athens2004

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    Well put.
     
  8. Mar 30, 2010 #68 of 140
    jdgarrido

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    Pony, don't let some negative post keep you away. I believe that the great majority of those that browse the forums, love it when you come and give us help and insight on Tivo's side. Please keep come back as often as possible.
     
  9. Mar 30, 2010 #69 of 140
    innocentfreak

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    Definitely not. I know I for one am happy to see you posting on here again.
     
  10. Mar 30, 2010 #70 of 140
    RoyK

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    I didn't mention you at all until you posted a comment in response to my posting stating that you (TiVo) never said that the S3 would be capable of using a single multistream card for multiple tuners.

    That isn't true as the video clip clearly shows.

    I'd accept your criticism if I'd called you one of the things you mentioned above. I didn't.

    Regards
     
  11. Mar 30, 2010 #71 of 140
    orangeboy

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    Roy,
    Pony clearly made his remarks general when he said "you all". If you didn't make any disparaging remarks towards Pony or other TiVo employees, then take no criticism.

    This next part is not directed at you Roy.
    People ***** about TiVo not participating in the Community forum, but can you blame them after the personal bashing that Pony described? I've said it before: this forum feels less communal, especially when riddled with negative posts and rants about how much better "product X" is so much better than TiVo.
     
  12. Mar 30, 2010 #72 of 140
    nrc

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    Tivo has added features and functionality to every new Series after their introduction. I'm enjoying many features on my S3 today that weren't available or promised at launch.
     
  13. Mar 30, 2010 #73 of 140
    nrc

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    Meanwhile people wonder why TiVo doesn't talk about anything in advance anymore.
     
  14. Mar 31, 2010 #74 of 140
    slowbiscuit

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    I'm sorry, but that's self-serving BS. You can always take the high road and ignore the extremists, but if all you want to hear from are fanboys then you need to stick to the tivo.com blog and forums.

    Legit criticism of the Premiere and Tivo's decisions on software changes should be welcome here, same as the praise that comes with listening and acting on good suggestions from your customers.
     
  15. Mar 31, 2010 #75 of 140
    orangeboy

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    Correct. Personal attacks and name calling that Pony described (and endured) are not welcome.
     
  16. Mar 31, 2010 #76 of 140
    comma splice

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    Don't bite the hand that feeds.
     
  17. Mar 31, 2010 #77 of 140
    comma splice

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    Off topic, but... what is hive scheduling?
     
  18. Mar 31, 2010 #78 of 140
    orangeboy

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    Also included in the Premiere is the Free Space Indicator and Video Window that some/many seemed to want.

    It's possible those things are on the mind of TiVo, but don't want to disclose anything for fear of being dinged by it later should it not come to pass (MCard support in the 648 model being mentioned earlier in this thread being an example...)
     
  19. Mar 31, 2010 #79 of 140
    ZeoTiVo

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    I completely understand TiVoPony. Posters are allowed now adays to go so far off base here without so much as a hand slap. Dare speak up to the people going way off base........
    Since none of that can be publicly discussed I have just resorted to acting stupid like the rest of them. I have no further desire to add anything of value to this forum.
    maybe noting that a TiVo representative has no desire to post in the TiVo community forum can get the forum owners to wake up and smell the coffee on how much better a forum this could be again. Ignore lists are no good when they get filled up daily or the TiVo reps decide to legitmately put the entire forum on their ignore lists.
     
  20. Mar 31, 2010 #80 of 140
    orangeboy

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    Not that it matters, you've just been removed from my ignore list.
     

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