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New Updated IOS7 TiVo App

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by bradleys, May 27, 2014.

  1. Jun 3, 2014 #61 of 113
    Dan203

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    I'm talking about in home. Downloads aren't very convenient for in home because you have to wait for enough to download to skip commercials. I'd much rather them just look at their old code and figure out what they broke.
     
  2. Jun 3, 2014 #62 of 113
    moyekj

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    In home download speeds have improved quite significantly lately as posted in my More detailed HLS statistics thread. Highest quality download of a 1 hour HD show took ~ 22 minutes in my test. This means you can start a download and start watching it after a minute or so and be able to skip all commercials without being interrupted. Not only does this avoid the "freeze" issue, but the trick play functionality has no lag at all compared to streaming mode, so it's a better experience overall.
     
  3. Jun 3, 2014 #63 of 113
    Dan203

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    Well it's good they improved speeds. I remember running a test right after OOH was released and in home speeds dropped significantly. Sounds like they got them back to where they were.

    For me the freeze usually happens after I fall asleep so my only complaint is that it keeps my iPad awake. I've got into the habit of using the clock app with a "stop playing" time to get around that. But occasionally I forget. And even when I don't I can tell if it froze or not by the way the app behaves when I wake it back up. (if it freezes it'll have an error and if it finishes it'll have a delete prompt)
     
  4. Jun 9, 2014 #64 of 113
    mattack

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    Do you guys mean the app itself freezes uncontrollably?

    What I've noticed is that the video seems to freeze sometimes *if* I try to continue the download after a failed download. Not always, not reproducibly..

    But I can still exit out of playback of the ep.

    I keep meaning to try to gather some useful info and write up a bug on their forums.
     
  5. Jun 10, 2014 #65 of 113
    mrizzo80

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    Noticed this release includes:
    *iOS 7 "swipe-to-go-back" gesture support
    *scroll position persistence (scroll down X items in list, drill into show, go back, and scroll position is now maintained)
     
  6. Jun 10, 2014 #66 of 113
    Dan203

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    I'm talking about the issue where the video itself will freeze when watching a stream.
     
  7. Jun 10, 2014 #67 of 113
    mattack

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    OK. I don't see it while streaming, but only because I don't actually stream (much).. I download, so I can skip through commercials (or even, heck, skip back 8 seconds) much more responsively.
     
  8. Jun 11, 2014 #68 of 113
    moyekj

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    Yes, downloads are the workaround to the freeze problem - freezes don't happen for downloads for some reason. As I said above, I prefer downloads anyway because trick play is more responsive compared to streaming as well as avoiding the freeze issue.
     
  9. Jun 11, 2014 #69 of 113
    mrizzo80

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    Not directly related to the iOS7 update, but is there any particular reason (streaming hardware limitation, codec, etc) streaming quality in the home isn't a bit sharper than it currently is?

    I'm not complaining - it's perfectly usable as it currently exists. But when comparing a clip of the Tonight Show between the YouTube app and the TiVo app, the YouTube app definitely wins.
     
  10. Jun 11, 2014 #70 of 113
    lgnad

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    Because we're basically running version 1.1 of the streaming functionality. It came out, there were a few bug fixes, and that's about it. There have essentially been no feature/functionality improvements. I've got 10mbit+ upstream, I'd love to be able to up the quality, and there's no reason that downloading couldnt be much higher quality.

    but.... All out of the house functionality currently goes through a tivo proxy connection, which inhibits bandwidth... they have been promising to open that up... fingers crossed for the upcoming update!
     
  11. Jun 12, 2014 #71 of 113
    mattack

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    Actually, as I said, I do have freezing in downloads _if_ the download failed and I had to restart it.. which seems to happen fairly frequently for me nowadays. When I originally got my (separate) Tivo Stream, I didn't have any of the problems some people here were talking about.

    But I have since switched to a Roamio Pro with its built in stream functionality... and there have been software upgrades since then.. and I run into these kinds of issues. I have semi-seriously thought about putting my separate Stream back online to see if it worked any different in practice than the built in one.. (I suspect it wouldn't.)
     
  12. Jun 12, 2014 #72 of 113
    berkshires

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    Is this an iOS7 only version? If so I apologize. I'm using the current iOS6 version...

    Has anyone found that they lose free space deleting shows on a Premiere using this app? Ie. the shows are removed from NP list but the space doesn't actually free up, so at less than 100% usage the TiVo is full?

    Since I stopped deleting shows with the iOS app, I have not lost additional space, but I currently max out at 82%
     
  13. Jun 13, 2014 #73 of 113
    mattack

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    I don't think it's iOS7 only.
     
  14. Jun 15, 2014 #74 of 113
    morac

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    I used to not having any problems watching downloaded shows on my iPad 2. Since updating the app has a tendency to crash when left or right swiping to instant replay or skip ahead. This is with iOS 7.1.1.
     
  15. Jul 23, 2014 #75 of 113
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    Anyone notice TiVo App v3.3.1 released today (23-July-2014)?
     
  16. Jul 23, 2014 #76 of 113
    bradleys

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    Just lists the updates as - Bug fixes
     
  17. Jul 23, 2014 #77 of 113
    dbattaglia001

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    there are a lot of bugs, especially when downloading a show while it's still recording or going from one wifi network to another and resuming downloads, so here's to hoping that generic bug fix will actually be a big improvement!
     
  18. Jul 23, 2014 #78 of 113
    mattack

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    One thing I noticed that I THINK was fixed, was that I think it now remembers that you want CC on.. I don't remember if I checked going back out to now playing, or just hitting done and starting again on the same show..
     
  19. Jul 29, 2014 #79 of 113
    ShoutingMan

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    Downloading shows to my iPad seems to be getting better, but still can't be trusted. The speeds are maybe a bit better, but I'm not sure. I downloaded 24 S8 this weekend, and of the 11 episodes, 9 downloaded without issue. One had to be resumed onced. And another errored out about ten times, and had to be deleted and restarted.

    Is there a bug reporting system at Tivo.com? The download system has been so buggy for so long, I keep meaning to look for a way to add my voice to any feedback they get to fix it.

    It's a killer feature for me; but I wish it worked without constant babysitting.
     
  20. Jul 30, 2014 #80 of 113
    morac

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    I'm not sure if this was a fluke or something, but I downloaded a bunch of FOX shows from my Roamio Pro to my iPad 2 and tried to watch them. Periodically the screen would go completely black for a short while and come back. It did this a few times and eventually I stopped watching.

    The shows on my Roamio Pro played back fine.
     

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