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Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by hybucket, Jul 13, 2007.
If I were in your shoes, I'd do the same thing. Return the S2, and get the S3 lite.
Budget is my wife's name. I get brownie points for mentioning her
This Lite unit seems like the kiss of death for the current S3 hardware (less than a year after release). Based on bits and pieces I have read here and there I don't see any significant downside to this Lite unit compared to current S3 hardware. Hope that doesn't mean no more emphasis on software for the S3. Just hope the S3 and this S3 Lite share the same software so that they both get attention going forwards...
The unit is a steal for just a standalone HD OTA TiVo, if nothing else!!
I wish they'd enable MRV for OTA...
well the S3 price has come down and since it is the quality unit then it still will have some sales legs in it. But if TiVo sells lots of this new one then they will just have to live with that
in any case this new S3 will most likely use the same codee base as the current S3 and both will be supported for some time to come. The idea of ending updates for the current S3 is just not substantiated by anything we have seen to date in other model releases
Since you are quite knowledgable regarding the various chipsets, care to do a comparasion between the S3 and S3lite for us, in terms of potential capabilities, speed, etc.?
I don't worry about that at all. They're still very similar and will no doubt use the same software. The main hardware differences based on the previous post seems to be a new tuner chip in the Lite, and an integrated MPEG4/2 decoder chip rather than two separate chips.
Bob's note was prior to CableLabs' creation of a certification process for MCards in Nov/Dec 2006.
DT_DC noticed the appearance of the S3 in a certification wave in March. The appearance on the list was odd because it was already Cablecard certified and all subsequent models can be self certified. What would explain it is if it were an MCard certification because they would not have been able to self certify that, and so that was DT's guess.
The S3 lite would then be a self certification. That would explain why a search on those model numbers do not turn up on the cablelabs site, but the S3's does.
Besides circumstantial information likes this, it just stands to reason that they would not release the S3 lite to manufacturing without the MCard certification, so DT's guess was probably correct.
Although it is likely- we just don't have any official confirmation of this status- not that it matters because there may be some ramping up before most cableco servers support the MCards.
I have been waiting for this box since I heard about it.
Before I buy, I have a question about the S3:
I know that TTG and MRV do not work with the S3 box (keeping fingers crossed). For those of you that do have an S3, are you able to use Amazon Unbox?
If so, how is the picture? With my S2DT the picture is almost DVD quality. I imagine, because it's a purely digital box that the S3 would have a better picture.
I haven't read this whole thread -- but in the first couple of pages, people talk about removal of analog tuners.
I thought that CableCard certification REQUIRED the ability to tune analog channels.
Is that not actually true?
Yes, Unbox works on Series 3.
I have not compared to the Series 2, but it looks about between "Best" TiVo recording quality and DVD.
Picture varies according to source. OK. Casual viewers won't generally see a huge amout of in-your-face defieciencies compared to DVDs, though they are there.
Shouldn't be any huge difference between the s2 & s3 in playback.
I am a little more positive about the pricing than I was previously ( http://hdtivo.wordpress.com/2007/07/14/more-signs-of-lite/ ); $299 is a pretty good start. Id like to see them come down $20-50 by XMAS.
I think TiVo could have moderate success with this, restricted of course by the price/commitments of service.
The right DVR for ME will be a S-3 or S-4 that includes at least a...
250G hard drive
Dual ATSC tuners...and...
A LIFETIME SUBSCRIPTION OFFER...AND...
A DUAL LAYER BLU-RAY BURNER BUILT IN!!!
The price I will snap this device up at is $599.99
I think I still have about two years to wait for that device and price.
The renewal of the lifetime subscription offer or not isn't a deal breaker but would seal the deal. I would be willing to pay $399.99 for lifetime service.
The right one for ME is one that
- Makes me coffee in the morning
- Brings me beer at night
- Makes popcorn
- Runs on air instead of electricity
- Has a built in 400" projector
For $99, I'd snap it up!
Aside from the standard TiVo remote and no front panel display, is this really a "lite" version of the Series 3?
Seems to have all the other features.
I've become very used to the OLED panel now, I use it all the time to see what is being recorded. So much that I would probably not want an S3 without it unless the cost savings was major like $300 but my last S3 was only around $540 back in December.
Not lite on features. Lite on the wallet.
It could just be the components, as pointed out earlier. Integrated chips for decoding rather than separate chips, and other stuff, as well as the smaller HD, missing display and different remote.
Even though a 540 model series 2 is newer than a 240 model, it is doing some things slower due to having integrated chips (as I understand it). Could be a similar situation here.
Not sure if that's worth warranting the "lite" tag though - that will not be the name (also mentioned earlier ).